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Posted by Anonymous
on Sunday, April 17, 2005 5:48 PM
Originally posted by MusicCity
A moisture trap is always a good idea but if you use primarily enamel or laquer it is even more so. I usually collect about an ounce of water in my moisture trap after a day of spraying.
Hi, Forum,
I just want to second the moisture trap, at least in my particular experience. As some have noted, I never really had any moisture problems with acrylics ( or lacquers for that matter), when I used an old W.R. Brown air brush compressor. However, when I exceeded my reach and began using a 25 gal shop compressor pumping air through a manifold to a regulated station in the hobby area, I did begin to experience water in both airbrushes. I suspect the combination of distance, holding tank, and the temperature differentials between house and garage are the culprits. I just bought a trap and regulator assembly at Sears, and it seems to work really well. I Still can't paint worth a hoot, but at least I only have myself to blame.
While this setup would not be for everyone, I have found the combination of no noise (the air compressor is in the garage), inexhaustable air source (a constantly recharging tank), and the ability to use the compressor for other purposes made sense for me. One word of caution: It is possible to tear up an airbrush with the pressure a shop compressor can produce.
HTH.
Cordially,
Paul
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Posted by cdclukey
on Thursday, April 14, 2005 12:30 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by ABARNE
For one starting out, I do recommend the H-Set, which gives you 3 different sized tips, large and small bottles, and extra bottle, color cup, and a good hose. About all you need then is a compressor with regulator and moisture trap.
For prices, check out Dixie-Ar, $49.95 with free shipping.
http://www.dixieart.com/HSet.html
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Help me out here...the H appears to be a bottle brush, but the set includes a color cup. How does that work, exactly? Can you mount the cup on it and use it as a gravity feed brush?
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Posted by Tankmaster7
on Tuesday, March 29, 2005 3:07 PM
i use the blue mini. it is pretty quiet, and it works.
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Posted by Jabbe
on Monday, March 28, 2005 5:35 PM
Far from obsolete. I'm in the market for a compressor. I was thinking about the Testors Mini with regulator and moisture trap. I live in an apt, so I don't want to make much noise. I'm using a cheap, single action AB and cans at the moment, and man oh man is it inconsistent.
Between these 2 compressors, which would it be?
http://www.airbrushcity.com/1601d.htm
http://www.hobbylinc.com/htm/tes/tes50204.htm
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Posted by Anonymous
on Monday, March 28, 2005 12:21 PM
Breaking news: the 100 hasd been ordered. This thread is now obsolete. Thank you for your time.
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Posted by Anonymous
on Friday, March 25, 2005 9:16 PM
Yep, that's the plan. Hopefully soon, I'll leave my computer on a site selling the Badger 100 LG
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Posted by 9x19mm
on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 6:11 AM
I have a Badger 100 LG and I really do like it. I would recommend it to anyone wanting a AB. I also had a Paasche H. It was my first AB and I wish I would have just gotten a gravity fed double action at the start. Do yourself a favor and get a double action first it will be cheaper in the long toss.
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Posted by Anonymous
on Sunday, March 20, 2005 9:40 PM
Hey TurboMoe, Welcome to the forum and all that stuff. I just happened to be here right when you posted this. It kicks on pretty often for me because I like to spray at around 15-20psi and I use a double action AB (spray alot of wasted air while pulling trigger back). It charges up to 100psi then restarts when it drops below 70psi. I don't know how to judge it by time.
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Posted by Anonymous
on Sunday, March 20, 2005 9:25 PM
I-beam:
How often does the compressor have to kick on, or how long will the full tank last you? I've been thinking about making a setup like yours, but not sure.
Also was wondering if anyone could comment on how loud hobby compressors are. I live in an apt., so I don't want something that will be going none stop with annoying noise. That's why I'm considering something with a tank so I don't have to run the compressor all the time.
Thanks in advance, sorry for all the questions but thought I could post here instead of starting a complete new thread.
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Posted by Tankmaster7
on Sunday, March 20, 2005 5:42 PM
Nope. Same AB but the SG only holds about 1 mL of paint because it is a really really fine precision detail brush. Won't do you sh** for general coverage.
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Posted by Anonymous
on Saturday, March 19, 2005 9:42 PM
interesting...
BTW: is the badger 100 LG and 100 SG basically the same thing?
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Posted by qmiester
on Saturday, March 19, 2005 7:47 AM
If you're looking for inexpensive air compressors, try this site: www.harborfreight.com
Type in air compressor in the key word search and you will get 4 pages of compressors they carry. Go to page two and they have several Cambell Hausfeld compressors with 1, 2 and 3 gallon tanks all well under $100. They also carry a selection of accessories for air compressors (small and large regulators, moisture traps, hoses etc).
Quincy
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Posted by Anonymous
on Thursday, March 17, 2005 7:25 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Comrade Sergei
What type of Copmpressor is that, anyway?
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Comrade Sergei, It is a Campbell-Hausefeld (sp?). Got it at Walmart for $70. Check them out if you can. Not trying to sell to you anything. But have somebody plug one in at the store and hear the "loudness" for yourself.
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Posted by Anonymous
on Thursday, March 17, 2005 7:20 PM
regulator, eh....Are there any of those for cheap? As I mentioned, my budget is only $200 (minus $15 and 1.19 pounds) I-beam's looks like it comes with the compressor. What type of Copmpressor is that, anyway?
Maybe I could stick my compressor in a padded box...but then no air would get to it...Urgh, more setbacks. ![Angry [:(!]](/FSM/CS/emoticons/icon_smile_angry.gif)
Hey, maybe I could get my parents to pay for part of the cost if i agree to pump their tires for them... ![Cool [8D]](/FSM/CS/emoticons/icon_smile_cool.gif)
BTW:
a little anecdote: Going along with No noise paranoia, I have an intense fear of asking for things. So the way that I get my modeling supplies off the internet is as follows: I go the site, ring everything up, and leave my computer on the checkout screen. Eventually, my mom gets the hint and asks me about it, at which point I whip out some money to pay for the use of her credit card. Sometimes, it takes a while. For instance, I left my computer on, and about an hour later, my mom asks me "So, you want to buy an airbrush?"
I reply in the affirmative, and run upstairs to get my wallet. By the time I return, my mom has forgotten about it and is watching TV. So it appears I will have to try angain. Maybe during the weekend, I could leave the computer on the whole day. Maybe by dinner, my parents will be so fed up that they will listen to me. ![Sigh [sigh]](/FSM/CS/emoticons/icon_smile_sigh.gif)
Hey, but who am I to complain? I just got them to get me two new printer cartriges, a shiny calculator (my old one thought Y was a number ![Disapprove [V]](/FSM/CS/emoticons/icon_smile_disapprove.gif) ), and a bunch of modeling supplies.Life is Good ![Propeller [8-]](/FSM/CS/emoticons/icon_smile_propeller.gif)
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Posted by Anonymous
on Thursday, March 17, 2005 7:09 PM
Yes it's loud, but I've gotten used to it and it only turns on to recharge. If I ever got one of those quiet ones I would wonder if it was broke or something cause no sound. I would still want a tank. But hey, it pumps up car tires as a side job ![Big Smile [:D]](/FSM/CS/emoticons/icon_smile_big.gif)
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Posted by maddafinga
on Thursday, March 17, 2005 6:18 PM
No, they won't make your airbrush explode, you just need a regulator to set the pressure at which you spray. If you're in a house you can put that compressor inside and run an air hose to your modeling area, if your'e in an apartment, you might just have to suck it up and get some ear plugs or something. I don't think I can really help you with your sound problem though.. ![Smile [:)]](/FSM/CS/emoticons/icon_smile.gif)
Madda
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Posted by Anonymous
on Thursday, March 17, 2005 5:01 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by woodbeck3
Decent set up there I-beam... whats the decibels on that one.
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Uh, yeah, about that: I've kind've got this thing about not making any noise...ever. I turn the volume way down on my TV so that no-one can hear it (even me). Anyway: are those industrial compressors very much louder than the special hobby ones. More importantly: will they produce too much pressure and make my airbrush explode. ![Dead [xx(]](/FSM/CS/emoticons/icon_smile_dead.gif)
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Posted by Anonymous
on Thursday, March 17, 2005 4:28 PM
Decent set up there I-beam... whats the decibels on that one.
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Posted by Anonymous
on Wednesday, March 16, 2005 8:38 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jdavidb
This is all safely under the $200 budget. I'm not kidding. A Badger 100 for about $65 and a 2 gallon hardware compressor for about $90. No problem. You've still got a few bucks left over to add a moisture trap.
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I agree totally. Just took a pic of my setup. Labeled too ![Clown [:o)]](/FSM/CS/emoticons/icon_smile_clown.gif) Total price: $160. The moisture trap is a cheapie $5 but it does the job.
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Posted by jdavidb
on Wednesday, March 16, 2005 8:31 PM
The Badger 100... now you're lookin' at impressive airbrushes ![Thumbs Up [tup]](/FSM/CS/emoticons/icon_smile_thumbsup.gif) Definitely get the medium head assembly for that one. It's an illustrator airbrush. My guess is that the 100 medium will make you feel like you'll never need the fine head assembly.
These days, every compressor worth anything comes with adjustable psi with a visible gauge. Gravity airbrush-using model builders are usually airbrushing at 10 to 20 psi.
This is all safely under the $200 budget. I'm not kidding. A Badger 100 for about $65 and a 2 gallon hardware compressor for about $90. No problem. You've still got a few bucks left over to add a moisture trap.
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Posted by Tankmaster7
on Wednesday, March 16, 2005 7:52 PM
compresors don't come in set PSI levels! they give what they give, no more and for less you need a regulator.
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Posted by Anonymous
on Wednesday, March 16, 2005 7:36 PM
urgh..pulsing airflow.. sounds despicable. So many things to buy. Suddenly $200 seems like nothing. Maybe I'll just get the airbrush and a propellent can, and get the compressor a little later. How long do propellent cans last ?(9 oz or something like that)
And about the badger 100 lg:
It comes in fine, medium, and heavy. which would you recomend for general paining (both wide area coverage and (when I get there) camouflage patterns. (medium, right?)
and for the compressor:
If I buy one from home depot or something, what PSI would you recommend?
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Posted by jdavidb
on Wednesday, March 16, 2005 12:15 AM
a major reason for a tank: a lot less time with the motor running. 2.6 gallons gives me a whole lot of airbrush time without having to hear a motor running. Less time with the motor running also means longer compressor life.
Diaphragms that do not have auto shutoff run constantly and all of that air is let loose through a bleeder. It's wasting operation time to run an already short-life motor to supply airflow that serves no purpose, while tank compressors waste nothing because all of its air waits until you push the airbrush's trigger.
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Posted by Anonymous
on Tuesday, March 15, 2005 9:59 PM
well the only reason to get a tank with your comp is to have a study non pulsing airsupply. Ifyou get a single piston or diaphram type compressor with a regulator and moisture trap you wont get any pulsating. If you go directly from the piston or diaphram youll get pulsing and be a slave to whatever psi it is rated at. So no you dont need a tank but they are sure nice. I use a mini blue compressor which is of the diaphram type with a good regulator and moistior trap and I have no problems what so ever
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Posted by jdavidb
on Tuesday, March 15, 2005 9:09 PM
Sears and Home Depot both currently have small compressors with tanks for under $100. I'm just saying that you don't have to ship one. It's likely that you can find one at a tool store nearby.
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Posted by Anonymous
on Tuesday, March 15, 2005 3:59 PM
Nice site, woodbeck! Just one question: they have those compressors with or without tanks. what's the difference. Correct me if i'm wrong, but the compressor still works fine without a tank, right? Cuz i don't got no $216 !
Maddafinga, the only problem I can see with the Badger 100 lg is that I can't seem to find it in any site that also stocks cheap compressors. I'd like to buy the two together to save on S&H costs.
But I did find this awsome german site. For you german language fans out there, here's a new word: Airbrush-Kompressoren. So like the germans to call everything what it actually is. For instance: Hibernation is "winterschlaft" or "Winter sleep"
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Posted by Anonymous
on Tuesday, March 15, 2005 1:57 AM
http://www.airbrush-depot.com/scripts/depot.exe?pgm=abpaakits.bbx
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Posted by ABARNE
on Monday, March 14, 2005 2:35 PM
I think the H is an excellent choice for someone starting out. Although single-action, I don't think that it is particularly limiting. It's fine line capability is sufficient for almost any modelling situations.
For one starting out, I do recommend the H-Set, which gives you 3 different sized tips, large and small bottles, and extra bottle, color cup, and a good hose. About all you need then is a compressor with regulator and moisture trap.
For prices, check out Dixie-Ar, $49.95 with free shipping.
http://www.dixieart.com/HSet.html
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Posted by Tankmaster7
on Monday, March 14, 2005 2:18 PM
yep. I'm in love with my 155 anthem too.
-Tanky
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