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  • Member since
    February 2005
  • From: Raleigh (NCSU)
noob needs some help....
Posted by Jabbe on Wednesday, March 16, 2005 1:27 PM

Hi Everyone,

I'm working on my 2nd and 3rd models, an Italeri V-22 and Testors F4U-1 (both 1:72). I'm wanting to paint the wheels and tires, and I'm having trouble making nice circles, the tire almost always turns out looking square. I've painted the inside (wheel) white, but I'm looking for an effective way to mask off the tire/wheel so that they look round.

Also, I have a Revell B-26 (1:72) that I'm wanting to finish in metallic colors. I've noticed some modelers are able to create "panels" with slightly different shades of metallic color. What paint/colors do you use? How do you finish the panels with slightly different sheens?

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Joshua
  • Member since
    March 2003
  • From: Broken Arrow, Oklahoma
Posted by maddafinga on Wednesday, March 16, 2005 3:04 PM
I usually just paint the edges of the tire very carefully with a brush, then mask off a less precise area and spray the rest. When I have masked them, I have covered the wheel with masking tape, then used the side of a pencil lead to rub the image of the hub onto the tape. Then I pull the tape off and cut out that circle. There are guys who use a circle template directly as a freehand shield, or to cut out perfectly round circles of tape.

As far as differently colored panels, you just use a slightly different shade of paint, or a slightly more or less glossy overcoat. You can also mix drops of other colors into your metallic color. It's pretty simple, just use your imagination and experiment a little bit to get colors that you like.
Madda Trifles make perfection, but perfection is no trifle. -- Leonardo Da Vinci Tact is for those who lack the wit for sarcasm.--maddafinga
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    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 16, 2005 3:21 PM
I spray the center hub color 1st, then after its dry I pour some paint in a tray, to a level just below the tires wheel rimline, and just roll the tire in it.
If you do it right the paint will be displaced by the wheel and lay itself right up to the ridge of the wheel
like so with paint.

  • Member since
    February 2003
  • From: Melbourne, Australia
Posted by darson on Wednesday, March 16, 2005 7:10 PM
Hey I love IROC's idea that sounds cool. My only problem would be that guaranteed I would drop the wheel into the paint and have to start again Tongue [:P]
Apart from that, I paint my wheels very similar to IROC, except that after I have sprayed the centre I get a 10/0 brush to paint around the wheel rims and then use a standard brush for the rest of the tire. Depending on how fussy you are, a quick dry-brush with dark grey will bring out the detail in your tires tread pattern.

For NMF I use two or three different shades of ALCLAD II to create the shaded panel effect.

Cheers
Darren
  • Member since
    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 16, 2005 11:37 PM
I've had a little luck when using bare metal foil by rotating the sheets so that on some of the panels the "grain" of the material is running at a 45 degree angle to the rest.. It's very subtle, but works okay.

jaymon
  • Member since
    April 2003
  • From: NSW, Australia
Posted by pingtang on Thursday, March 17, 2005 1:29 AM
I use a different method to paint my tyres. I paint the wheel the proper colour first. Then I dip a brush in some thinner and touch it to the tyre where it meets the wheel. Let the thinner flow around the join, you might have to touch the brush to the tyre in a few different places. Then you can dip the brush in some flat black paint, and touch that to the small pool of thinner. The paint will flow around the wheel, giving a perfect line. If you use acrylics, you can even use water instead of thinner.

For different shades of paint on panels, try adding colours to the metallic paint and mask off individual panels. Or you could use different shades of alclad, and spray the seperately masked off panels.
-Daniel
  • Member since
    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 17, 2005 6:34 AM
Darson - don't drop it ! A toothpick or appropriate piece of thin wire through the hub will give a nice handle and allow you to roll the wheel without directly holding it. This does assume the wheel has a "through and through" type hub however so won't work in all situations.
  • Member since
    February 2005
  • From: Raleigh (NCSU)
Posted by Jabbe on Thursday, March 17, 2005 8:24 AM

Wow, these are some great techniques. Thanks everyone! Big Smile [:D]
  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: NYC, USA
Posted by waikong on Thursday, March 17, 2005 9:22 AM
I used Pingtang's method too. But sometimes, the wheel and tire seperation isn't deep enough to gget a good wicking action. For those times, I use a sharpie brand black ink pen - fine tip. The pen gives you much more control and I use it to draw around the wheel. It drys a bit shinny so a float coat will be needed later.
  • Member since
    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 17, 2005 4:20 PM
I use my Dremel. I take 2 wooden toothpick that come to a flattened point on one end . I put the tire on one and break the other one in half to get the "chuck" size and spool it up on my dremel at low rpm.

Sorry... paint the wheel first so you odnt have to be neat with that.

load you paint brush with the appropiete base color turn on the dremel and paint the tire.
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