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Dullcote with an airbrush?

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 26, 2003 8:28 PM
Yes, you can usually spray acrylics over enamels without problems - heck, I spray Future over my laquer color coats all the time, and it's an acrylic - but, as with anything, you want to test it first. Laquer over enamels is also fine.
I added the caution because most paint manufacturers use the rule of thumb of "acrylics over acrylics, enamels over acrylics or enamels, and laquers over acrylics, enamels or laquers" (see Testors home page for more info). An acrylic over enamel or laquer may not always cure properly. The best bet for success is to let the enamel or laquer cure thoroughly before spraying acrylic over it. Never apply acrylics over wet or damp enamel or laquer.
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Posted by MikeV on Thursday, June 26, 2003 1:44 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by heylonghair


Ok, I'm getting confused again. I thought acrylic on top of enamels was fine. It was enamels over acrylics that caused problems.


Acrylic over enamels is fine. Actually you can even spray lacquer over enamels if done properly. The key is spraying a few light, "dust coats" first to protect the enamel from the lacquer when you spray the next coat a bit heavier.

Mike

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 9:35 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by glheald

Gunze Sangyo flat clear acrylic (#H20) seems to work a lot better, giving better results with fewer coats, and cleans up much easier. Of course, this probably isn't good advice if you're spraying over laquer or enamel...
Glenn


Ok, I'm getting confused again. I thought acrylic on top of enamels was fine. It was enamels over acrylics that caused problems.

I hate all these different types of paint.Angry [:(!] They're so hard to keep straight.

Ray
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 9:12 PM
I've been really disappointed with the results of Testors dullcoat. Gunze Sangyo flat clear acrylic (#H20) seems to work a lot better, giving better results with fewer coats, and cleans up much easier. Of course, this probably isn't good advice if you're spraying over laquer or enamel...
Glenn
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Posted by MikeV on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 5:25 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by blackwolfscd

Okay, so THAT's what happens when you put alotta lacquer over enamels, huh? Sheesh... Wink [;)]Tongue [:P]



It might come in handy as a technique for modeling tanks.

It would give the finish that blistered from a fire look. Wink [;)]

Mike

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Posted by erush on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 3:06 PM
I thin about 50/50 in mine.

Make SURE you clean your air brush good with laquer thinner afterward, that's a mess you don't want to try to clean later.

*speaks from experience*

Eric
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Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 11:38 AM
Okay, so THAT's what happens when you put alotta lacquer over enamels, huh? Sheesh... Wink [;)]Tongue [:P]


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Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 11:35 AM
We do? Wait a sec, let me try...


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Posted by MikeV on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 9:25 AM
Dullcoat is lacquer based so thin it with lacquer thinner.
Be careful to not spray it on too thick though because we know what happens when lacquer is sprayed over enamels wet. [:0]

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by leemitcheltree on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 4:46 AM
Janus,
Thin it with white spirit, a refined form of turpentine-

Cheers
LeeTree

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Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 10:39 AM
THIN IT!!! Tongue [:P]

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Posted by MikeV on Monday, June 23, 2003 10:32 PM
It needs thinning.

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Dullcote with an airbrush?
Posted by Anonymous on Monday, June 23, 2003 9:51 PM
Can Testor's Dullcote be sprayed straight from the bottle? Or is thinning in order?
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