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Aztek A470 Problem
Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, June 26, 2005 1:26 AM
Hoping other A470 users can help.

When I have the dial turned all the way to the left and press down I still get paint coming out and not just air as it is supposed to be.

Does this happen to anyone else or could there be a prob with my airbrush.

Thanks
Glen
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  • From: Pensacola, FL
Posted by Foster7155 on Sunday, June 26, 2005 8:18 AM
Glen,

My experience is similar, but only with paints that are extremely thinned or with straight thinner (when cleaning the brush). When the paint is slightly thicker, I tend to get nearly clean air coming out of the brush with only a slight hint of paint. I've never really worried too much about this situation since I've never seen the need to have pure air coming out of the brush, but rather a very light dusting of paint.

Maybe there are some others with experiences out there and I hope this helps.

Robert Foster

Pensacola Modeleers

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Posted by giobosco on Monday, June 27, 2005 3:10 AM
Hi All,

Sign - Ditto [#ditto]

I have the same problem, is the nozzle tightly screwed?, if it is, try to loosen it a bit, not much or else you will have feed-back into the cup. Also what are you spraying? Acrylics or Enamels? I stopped sraying enamels because they destroy the AB. When I bought it 6 years ago, the salesman told that the A470 was constructed of the same plastics that they use on the space shuttle, therefore impervious to everything. Well, the 3rd time I used enamels and cleaned it with thinners I started noticing that the chrome ring by the nozzle was starting to lift, not log after, the "O" ring gave up. I must say though, that they replaced the entire AB for free, no questions asked. They have a lifetime warranty...hope this helps

regards
Gb
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, June 27, 2005 4:54 AM
Foster it's a pain when I'm doing small patches of camo. I like to approach the part I'm painting with just air first and then let the paint loose.. it gives good control but certainly doesn't work when there's paint constantly sprayingout. I'll try and thicken the paint as you suggest thanks.

Gio I only use acrylics. I'll try loosening the nozzle as well.

I hate to say it but I don't think my next airbrush will be an Aztek.

Thanks guys.
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Posted by giobosco on Monday, June 27, 2005 5:17 AM
HI Glen,

yep I tend to agree with you. I just got an IWATA HP-C Plus, I know that they are expensive, but I saved for that and got it. There is no point in mucking about...not to mention the frustration of doing a model over just beacuse of some splutter and paint spitting out..AAAARRGHH!!! Banged Head [banghead]
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Posted by MusicCity on Monday, June 27, 2005 5:27 AM
Excuse my ignorance becuse I know absolutely nothing about Azteks, but is the A470 the one that has selectable single-actio and double-action? The behavior you are describing is exactly how a single-action airbrush behaves.
Scott Craig -- Nashville, TN -- My Website -- My Models Page
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, June 27, 2005 3:52 PM
Music

The A470 is a dual action so it can be used as a single as well as a double.
There is a dial that controls this. The trouble is that there should be a position where no paint is released, just air, and that is not happening.

I'm thinking that there is a valve inside that may not be working properly.

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Posted by MusicCity on Monday, June 27, 2005 8:56 PM
QUOTE: The trouble is that there should be a position where no paint is released, just air, and that is not happening.

Ah, now I see. Sounds broke to me Tongue [:P] Sorry, I couldn't resist. A lot of people like single-action brushes, but I understand what you mean.
Scott Craig -- Nashville, TN -- My Website -- My Models Page
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Posted by jridge on Monday, June 27, 2005 10:29 PM
I had (note past tense) the same problem with my A470. My LHS verify it wasn't anything I was doing. The replacement did exactly the same thing.

I solved my problem by switching to an Omni 6000. I use acylics exclusively. But, I don't think that contributed to my problems.
Jim The fate of the Chambermaid http://30thbg.1hwy.com/38thBS.html
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Posted by madmike on Monday, June 27, 2005 10:45 PM
Glen

I am pretty sure mine does the same thing.

Iwata are good, yes but you cannot get spare parts readily in Australia. I am looking at getting a Delta, which is an Iwata clone and parts are readily available here.

cheers

Mike
"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." - Galileo Galilei
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 6:10 AM
Mike

Do you know any links where I can heck out the Delta, I can't seem to find anything on it.

Cheers
Glen
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Posted by madmike on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 6:27 AM
Glen

http://www.stanbridges.com.au here in Perth

cheers

Mike
"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." - Galileo Galilei
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Posted by waikong on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 12:35 PM
I have the A470, and turned all the way to the left as a double action brush, I have only air coming out. I use Acrylic paints. However, I have sprayed enamel & even lacqeur on occation. Sound like the brush to me.
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Posted by giobosco on Thursday, June 30, 2005 5:24 AM
Mike,

I just got an iwata from over east and they have all the spares you want. It took virtually 3 days to deliver it here...air2art....
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Posted by madmike on Thursday, June 30, 2005 9:43 AM
Like the sound of that....Do you have some online details at all?

cheers

Mike
"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." - Galileo Galilei
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Posted by giobosco on Friday, July 1, 2005 2:38 AM
Sure thing, try this link:

http://air2art.com.au/iwata_airbrushes.htm.

I tried to follow the link from the home page, but it doesn't work, so I contacted them and I got a reply with the above and to contact them if I needed any help..They are in Cairns (QLD).

parts@air2art.com.au is the email for the spare parts

Hope this helps, regards

Gianni
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  • From: Perth Western Australia
Posted by giobosco on Friday, July 1, 2005 2:49 AM
Glen,

sorry man, we have somewhat digressed here, they replaced my A470 free of charge. These ABs have a lifetime warranty, it took about 1.5 months though, I took it to Stanbriges and they sorted everything out for me. I thought this could be of help, if the AB is giving you hell. Unfortunately, once you open the 470, it is a real problem trying to put it back together again, a bit like humpty-dumpty...so be aware of that...

regards

Gb
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 1, 2005 4:39 AM
I too own an a470 after geing laid up in the hospital and tying to recover from a broken neck, I just broke out my Ab. my problem though is that for some reason the trigger just flops around back and forth, if you push down air comes out but there is no second action at all. I am a very carefull person when it comes to my air brushes and ( I own Six differsnt ones) I clean them an always put it back in there cases. for some reason the a470 trigger no longer works. any help would be great.
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Posted by giobosco on Friday, July 1, 2005 5:13 AM
Kevin, I found this address:

The Testor Corporation
440 Blackhawk Ave
Rockford, IL 61104
USA
800-962-6654

If you are in the US maybe give them a call and see what they say

Hope that this is of help

Regards to all

Gianni
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 8, 2005 7:13 AM
No worries,mate!
Unless youve alredy figured it out or got your self something else,,,
I had the same problem, just set it all up and start shooting. First Itried the single action, all fine but when I was gonna set it to doubble the problem started. Anyway, youre supposed to screw the paint-flow adjuster roll to the very right ( I think... check the wee not-soo-precise-but in chinese instructioins on which way). This I did, with compressos off, nothing happend as youve noticec. This is five past six, hobbyshop closed till monday. Now i got p#€/ with it and with nozzle thigt I got it all the way to the end of the roll and by accident touthced the trigger. It all started makin dodgy noices but when takin the feeder roll to the opposite way, no paint, but slight air commin out. BUT always be carefull with the nozzle tightness, its very exact and will have your fingers colored from paint leekin from Nozzle/airb. seam - too loose or nothing commin out at all or unevenly. Good luck!
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