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Bought an Iwata
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 28, 2005 9:38 PM
Okay, so I broke down and bought the mighty Iwata. I have the Revolution bottom feed. I haven't sprayed it yet, but my initial impression is that it is a different animal than a Badger ( no pun intended ). I took it apart to see the inner workings and it is a little different than what I am used to. Upon reading the instructions, it seemed that the cleaning ritual is as follows; spray cleaner through it and wipe the needle clean. Am I missing something or is it that simple. By comparison, the Badger's take a little more effort as outlined in their instruction booklet. Any help will be appreciated. Tom, Salty, and Tanky, I know you can't wait to reply.

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Posted by jcheung5150 on Wednesday, September 28, 2005 11:22 PM
congrats on the new AB. I use the HP-CS and HP-CR, which are both gravity feed ABs. basically the way you described the cleaning for your bottom feed is how i clean my ABs. I pull the needle out at the end of my painting session, otherwise I just spray windex thru the AB (i use acrylics) in between switching colors. start spraying and let us know how you like it!

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Posted by RichardI on Thursday, September 29, 2005 7:03 AM
I don't think you will be disappointed with your Iwata. I just got an HP-C+ and I started making very thin, tight lines right out of the box. I just blew cleaner through the brush after use until it was clear, and - ready to go for next time. I don't think you will need to remove the needle every time you use it. I also have 2 Badgers and an Omni and I only remove the needle about every third use.

Rich Cool [8D]

On the bench: 1/48 Revell PBY Catalina 0A-10A. Next up: Moebius 1/24 Chariot from Lost in Space.

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Posted by ABARNE on Thursday, September 29, 2005 3:33 PM
It wouldn't surprise me if their cleaning regimen is that simple. I don't know if airbrushes are really any different, but it seems like their cleaning recommendations are a lot simpler these days that they used to be. It seems as though the old stereotype of complete disassembly after each painting session was serious overkill.

I have a Badger 200NH (basically single action Anthem), and I hardly ever take it apart these days. Usually I only shoot thinner though it. Maybe every now and again, particularly are a really long airbrushing session, I take off the caps and the cone and use a small brush to brush out anything left in the paint chamber or on the needle, and call it good. Since adopting this more laissez-faire approach to cleaning, I have occaisionally disassembled it, to see if there was any paint that I was missing, but have never really found any.
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Posted by Abdiel on Thursday, September 29, 2005 4:50 PM
Congrats! I LOVE my Iwata. It's a gravity fed model and I've had virtually no problems with it. The control it gives me and the balanced 'feel' of it in my hand made it a worthwhile purchase.

Happy airbrushing!
Eric
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Posted by MikeV on Thursday, September 29, 2005 6:27 PM
The cleaning procedure is the same for all of the airbrushes out there pretty much.

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by cpd934 on Thursday, September 29, 2005 9:37 PM
I just bought an Iwata revolution CR today at Hobby Lobby with the 40% off coupon.I have been wanting a gravity feed AB for awhile now. I already have a Badger 155 and I just dont have the skill to get consistant fine line detail with it, although i have no doubt the brush is capable. Anyway the Iwata , right out of the box shot nice fine lines, and I have not even had time to play with the air pressures and mixtures yet. I bought it pretty much on impulse and am very impressed with it.
Thanks TOM
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 30, 2005 12:03 AM
Talk about coincidences, Tom. I also bought the same Iwata airbrush at Hobby Lobby today using the same 40% off coupon, though I haven't had a chance to try mine out yet. By another coincidence, I also own a Badger 155, so I have a question. Will the same air hose fit both airbrushes? I guess I thought they were standardized, or maybe I just didn't think when i bought the Iwata. Let me know if I have to buy another hose before I get disappointed when my present hose doesn't fit.

BTW I like the 155 quite well, but I think a gravity feed will overcome some difficulties I have spraying really fine lines. I can hardly wait to try it out. Maybe this weekend.
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Posted by MikeV on Friday, September 30, 2005 12:21 AM
ChemMan,

The Iwata uses a different airhose.
The Badger hose fits the Badgers and the Thayer & Chandlers.

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 30, 2005 8:12 AM
Thanks Mike, I was afraid of that when I saw the connection (I keep my airbrush equipment in a different location so I couldn't compare immediately.)

Looks like another trip to Hobby Lobby. Since I have to go to get the airhose, I might as well print another 40% off coupon..... I wish they wouldn't do that.... Wink [;)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 30, 2005 1:09 PM
Iwata makes an adapter to fit the Badger hose or you can go with the quick disconnect route. Check out Bear Air or Dixie.

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Posted by cpd934 on Friday, September 30, 2005 4:39 PM
Yeah I found out the hard way, there not interchangable. I had to print another coupon and go back and buy another hose. Hobby Lobby did not have an adapter that would work for both and I figured with the coupon it would be about the same as ordering one online.
TOM
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Posted by Jeff Herne on Friday, September 30, 2005 4:47 PM
I have 4 Iwata airbrushes, and every single one of them are fantastic. My brushes are in constant use (just about every night), so I make sure they're clean.

Between colors, I spray Windex, but once I'm done for the evening, I'll break them down and clean them. Typically, I'll remove the needle, and run a cleaning brush through the insides, reassemble, and run Windex through one last time before wiping it down.

Considering the amount of money I've spent on my two high-end brushes, I've just made breaking them down each time part of the ritual, like shutting off the lights.

I've used (and owned) Badgers, Paasche, Aztek, and a Binks over the years, and I'm a hardcore dedicated fan of Iwata.

Jeff
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Posted by MikeV on Friday, September 30, 2005 7:07 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Jeff Herne

I've used (and owned) Badgers, Paasche, Aztek, and a Binks over the years, and I'm a hardcore dedicated fan of Iwata.


Poor soul. Disapprove [V] Clown [:o)]

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by tho9900 on Friday, September 30, 2005 8:24 PM
Eliot - great to hear you made the jump!!! Like I told you in mail, don't get rid of the Badgers as they still hold a valuable place in the lineup bit I think you will really come to appreciate that Iwata after a little practice...

Time to get out the milk jug and primer it up! Good luck!!!

Next stop for me is an HP-CS.... then I swear that's the last airbrush I buy! Wink [;)]
---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 30, 2005 9:01 PM
Well, I bit the bullet and bought the airhose. Maybe it's worth starting the new 40% off Tamiya P-47 just to give the Iwata a try.

Jeff, thanks for the cleaning tip. It always makes me uncomfortable not to break down an airbrush and clean it - even if it's just my old Badger 350.
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Posted by MikeV on Friday, September 30, 2005 10:00 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by ChemMan
Jeff, thanks for the cleaning tip. It always makes me uncomfortable not to break down an airbrush and clean it - even if it's just my old Badger 350.


There are very few airbrush experts who recommend you break it down each time you use it.

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by nathaniel on Saturday, October 1, 2005 12:28 AM
QUOTE: There are very few airbrush experts who recommend you break it down each time you use it.


That's true. I only ever disasemble every 2 or 3 months.

My cleaning technique (for my Paasche VL):
1) switch to a bottle of cleaner and spray until clear
2) backflush/boil a bit
3) empty the thing out
4) remove back end and pull needle
5) wipe needle down
6) put a tiny drop of glycerin on the needle
7) reinsert

That's it.

Now the Paasche VL is a great all purpose brush but is a bit weak on the detail end of things. What would be a great Iwata to get to do detail work with acrylics?
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, October 1, 2005 11:45 PM
I bought Iwata HP-B+ and they include 3/8'' connector. For hose I use polyurathane with 4x6 mm (4mm inner diameter and 6mm outer) from local shop. Use quick disconnect system if you own Badger and it is a valuable part, one hose with many brushes.
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Posted by MusicCity on Sunday, October 2, 2005 7:45 AM
It ain't the airbrush, it's the hand that holds it. 'Nuf said.
Scott Craig -- Nashville, TN -- My Website -- My Models Page
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 2, 2005 9:10 AM
Absolutely agree w/ you Craig. But unexpert modeler like me, Iwata already a proof coz very easy to use & could draw a very fine line with no splatter problemo at all. I never own such as Badger 100LG or Thayer Chandler Omni 4000, but maybe I'll buy 2 of that just to compare their performance by myself.
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Posted by tho9900 on Sunday, October 2, 2005 11:00 AM
Nathaniel -

if you want to get an Iwata that handles acrylics of all kinds well, the HP-CR works well for detail. it has an adequate needle/nozzle to handle larger pigments but still puts out amazing detail (with practice)
---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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