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                        Parma liquid mask for aircraft canopies?

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                        mfsob
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                          March 2005
                        • From: West Virginia, USA
                        Parma liquid mask for aircraft canopies?
                        Posted by mfsob on Wednesday, October 26, 2005 9:06 PM
                        Tackling my first airplane in about ... 40 years, a B-25 with that wicked greenhouse canopy nose. The local hobby shop does't stock Bare Metal Foil, but she handed me a bottle of something she said the R/C crowd uses - Parma International Liquid Mask, No. 701.

                        It's really thick, blue, lotion-looking stuff. I'm applying it to a test panel, but has anyone else ever used this stuff for 1/72 airplane canopies, or did I just blow another $4?
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                        thevinman
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                          December 2003
                        • From: CT - USA
                        Posted by thevinman on Wednesday, October 26, 2005 10:05 PM
                        I've used it before. It's ok...I just don't like having to wait for it to dry, and if you screw up cutting it, you have to re-apply and let it dry...again. I also had a hard time seeing where it was going on too thin and it tended to not lift up easy, once painting was done.

                        I prefer Parafilm-M
                        -Vinny



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                        mfsob
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                          March 2005
                        • From: West Virginia, USA
                        Posted by mfsob on Thursday, October 27, 2005 1:42 PM
                        Not easy to lift off? Swell ... Well, I've put three layers on my test piece, going to spray it tonight and see what happens.
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                        thevinman
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                        • From: CT - USA
                        Posted by thevinman on Thursday, October 27, 2005 7:16 PM
                        It didn't lift paint, but it tended to break apart (not come off in one piece) so I had to work on it gently with a toothpick. I use acrylics so scraping on the painted surface is always treacherous.

                        Good Luck!
                        -Vinny



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                        knight667
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                          January 2004
                        • From: Philomath, OR, USA
                        Posted by knight667 on Friday, October 28, 2005 6:05 PM
                        You might consider a precut mask by Meteor Productions or Eduard. I love the BlackMagic masks (Meteor's product name for their masks) and use them as often as I can. You can check out http://www.meteorprod.com/ and look under "Featured Product Lines" on the left side.
                        John "The only easy day was yesterday." - US Navy SEALs "Improvise. Adapt. Overcome." - US Marine Corp. "I live each day/Like it's my last/...I never look back" - from "I'm A Rocker" by Judas Priest
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, October 29, 2005 11:32 AM
                        I used it to mask this camo on this 1/72 PM Horten 229. I know it's not canopies. I had problems with it sticking too well and it pulled up some paint because I was in a hurry but it's ok otherwise. I used BMF for the canopy itself. It'll probably work fine but I suggest BMF for canopies. One sheet will last a long time for 1/72 aircraft.

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                        mfsob
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                          March 2005
                        • From: West Virginia, USA
                        Posted by mfsob on Thursday, November 17, 2005 9:32 AM

                        I've found that the Parma is not "precise" enough, at least for 1/72 aircraft canopies and noses like on my B-25 model. The stuff is so thick and gooey that it is almost impossible to keep it where you want it to go. However, I am keeping the bottle in case I ever want to do some kind of camouflage scheme, it should be just fine for that.

                        And I did end up using Bare Metal Foil to mask the canopy and bombadier's greenhouse - one more coat of olive drave and I get to see if it worked or not!

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                        thevinman
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                        • From: CT - USA
                        Posted by thevinman on Thursday, November 17, 2005 11:12 AM
                         mfsob wrote:

                        I've found that the Parma is not "precise" enough, at least for 1/72 aircraft canopies and noses like on my B-25 model.

                        You do realize that, once it's dry, you can cut it with a razor to get the precision you need. Sounds like you are just trying to brush it on the parts you want to mask.)

                        -Vinny



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                        mfsob
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                          March 2005
                        • From: West Virginia, USA
                        Posted by mfsob on Thursday, November 17, 2005 3:12 PM
                        Yep, and I did that, after brushing on three coats, waiting for each to dry, etc., like the directions said. It still came off in chunks from the areas I wanted to remain masked off. Thankfully this was on a test piece I put together, so I didn't have to scrub the goo of the canopy.
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                        thevinman
                        • Member since
                          December 2003
                        • From: CT - USA
                        Posted by thevinman on Thursday, November 17, 2005 10:29 PM
                        Awe man. That sucks. Like I said, I had the same experience....I'd opt for something else going forward. Bare metal sometimes leaves resedue. My favorite is Parafilm-m.
                        -Vinny



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