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Flat Base/ Future is kinda cloudy.

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  • Member since
    October 2005
  • From: Garland, TX
Flat Base/ Future is kinda cloudy.
Posted by tabascojunkie on Tuesday, November 1, 2005 6:05 PM
I sealed a model with a 3:1 mix of Future to Flat Base last night, as per the Complete Future article. I think it said this would be "very flat".

The end result was to make the colors almost grey-out a bit or get a little cloudy. It's only really noticeable on the darkest color, a black/brown, but there's quite a bit of it on the model.

My question is, is this what "very flat" looks like or did something go funky?

And I know I saw a thread on here about someone having a similar problem and fixing it with another coat of something, but I can't find that thread. So for a second question, any advice for how to maybe de-flatten my colors a bit?
Bruce
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    January 2004
  • From: USA
Posted by MusicCity on Tuesday, November 1, 2005 6:56 PM
Too much XF-21 in the mix. I never go below 4:1 because of that, and always recommend that it be tried on some scrap to make sure it looks right.
Scott Craig -- Nashville, TN -- My Website -- My Models Page
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    October 2005
  • From: Garland, TX
Posted by tabascojunkie on Tuesday, November 1, 2005 7:43 PM
I tried it on a junk mini first and didn't notice it, but it didn't have much of the black/brown on it. I'll just have to tweak a little more.

And I got my colors back to normal by hitting it with a couple of light coats of Testor's spray Gloss Cote. I guess more Future would also do the same thing? But now I'm back to needeing the matte finishSigh [sigh]. By the time I get done sealing this mini it's gonna be indestructible.
Bruce
  • Member since
    July 2004
  • From: SETX. USA
Posted by tho9900 on Tuesday, November 1, 2005 8:17 PM
yeah just plain future would have gotten rid of the cloudiness...

haha by time you get through sealing it it will go up another scale level! Wink [;)]
---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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    February 2003
  • From: Southern California, USA
Posted by ABARNE on Tuesday, November 1, 2005 9:01 PM
I'll second MusicCity. I use Tamiya Flat and Future but at a ratio of 4 parts Future to one part Flat base, and it gives a nice flat finish without clouding things. I wouldn't worry too much about the number of clear layers you have. I have a couple of kits in my collection that have many clear layers, but you can't tell just by looking at them.
  • Member since
    September 2005
Posted by nathaniel on Wednesday, November 2, 2005 10:36 AM
You could always spray a cloth with some windex and wipe off the cloudy future. It'll take some work to get it all evenenly off and watch out for decals and weathering if you go too deep.
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  • From: Massachusetts
Posted by ajlafleche on Friday, November 4, 2005 8:29 AM
Why do peolple insist on using this trash when there are many acrylic clear flats that don't need to be mixed with Future at a precise level to get a perfectly flat finish? The one thing I learned from my short stint in insurance sales was K.I.S.S., Keep It Simple, Stupid. One product to do the job of a carefully mixed combination of two others.

Remember, if the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy.

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  • From: USA
Posted by MusicCity on Friday, November 4, 2005 1:15 PM
QUOTE: Why do peolple insist on using this trash when there are many acrylic clear flats that don't need to be mixed with Future at a precise level to get a perfectly flat finish? The one thing I learned from my short stint in insurance sales was K.I.S.S., Keep It Simple, Stupid. One product to do the job of a carefully mixed combination of two others.

Show me another product that allows you to adjust the level of matte finish and I might consider it. Using Future and XF-21 I can get anything I want from dead flat to glossy or anywhere in between.
Scott Craig -- Nashville, TN -- My Website -- My Models Page
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