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hud
  • Member since
    November 2005
  • From: Jamestown,NC
enough is enough.......
Posted by hud on Tuesday, November 15, 2005 7:54 PM

I'm up to my eyeballs with my Aztec 270 airbrush. One paint job everything's ok, next job nothing but problems. I've given up on it and will be shopping tomorrow for a replacement. I guess you get what you pay for and I'm tired of not having a reliable 'brush. Reminds me of the $100 lawn mowers or gas grills. They're made to last a season  then it's time to throw 'em away. Anyway, what's a good quality airbrush that won't break the bank. I don't mind spending the money but I don't want to mortgage the house either. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance and sorry if I sound ill about it but I am.

Hud

  • Member since
    February 2003
  • From: Southern California, USA
Posted by ABARNE on Wednesday, November 16, 2005 2:24 AM

Paasche H for inexpensive simplicity.  Maybe a Badger 200NH or its double-action cousin 155 Anthem for a bit more performance.  Badger 100 double-action gravity feed for yet more performance.  Properly used, any of the above will give excellent results.

You didn't describe the nature of the problems that you experienced with your Aztek.  Airbrushing consistently well does take practice and experience.  From my own experience learning to airbrush, the problems I had early on with getting consistent results were more often than not due to my own inexperience.  So you may find that a new air-brush is nice, but that it might not make your problemsgo away immediately.

Andy

hud
  • Member since
    November 2005
  • From: Jamestown,NC
Posted by hud on Wednesday, November 16, 2005 7:50 AM

Could very well be "pilot error" :)  Probably is. It seems that I can paint a dozen objects and everything goes well, turn around 10 min later to do the next one and it spits and sputters like an old worn out motor. Could be the cleaning method but I always go thru the same steps. I'm pretty mindful of how it gets cleaned. I use acrylic about 99% of the time. I just think it's time for an upgrade. I've had this thing for a couple of years now. Maybe it's time to lay it to rest or maybe I'm looking for an excuse to upgrade. Thanks for the suggestions. I'll check 'em out.

Hud

  • Member since
    December 2003
  • From: CT - USA
Posted by thevinman on Wednesday, November 16, 2005 8:34 AM

Make sure you are not experiencing "Tip-Dry". Common problem with acrylics. I say this, becuase if this is so, you will have the same probs with ANY airbrush. I have an Aztek and Badger100LG. I use both. I like the "feel" of the Badger a little better, but they spray relatively the same IMHO.

See here:
http://www.finescale.com/FSM/CS/forums/542852/ShowPost.aspx

  • Member since
    March 2005
  • From: Nova Scotia, Canada
Posted by qtaylor on Wednesday, November 16, 2005 8:53 AM

Is that an external mix Aztek?


QT

"Neither a purist nor a perfectionist be."
  • Member since
    February 2003
  • From: Saratoga Springs, NY
Posted by Jeeves on Wednesday, November 16, 2005 11:08 AM
Yup-- if you are using acrylics mainly-- it's best to go pick up some retarder at any craft store-- a few drops of that added to your thinned paint will mostly prevent tip drying from occurring...
Mike
  • Member since
    July 2004
  • From: SETX. USA
Posted by tho9900 on Wednesday, November 16, 2005 9:00 PM

Hud - if you are just getting the "I've done all I can do with the brush" feeling.  There are several good brushes which are an upgrade to the one you have but won't break the bank:

Siphon fed:  The Badger 155 will handle large coverage to medium detail just fine!  The Iwata HP-CR is also a good brush, can handle large coverage to a little bit finer detail just fine.

Gravity fed:  Badger 100LG with a medium and fine needle/nozzle.  With both tips this brush can do a lot!  Iwata HP-CR it can handle almost every job, I own this one plus the Badger 155 and this is my favorite...

All of the above brushes typically run roughly about $70 plus the airhose. (Badger and Iwata have different size connections on them, neither of which will work with an Aztek hose)

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
hud
  • Member since
    November 2005
  • From: Jamestown,NC
Posted by hud on Thursday, November 17, 2005 8:01 AM

Thanks guys for the suggestions. I found a bargain ( I think) on an airbrush yesterday. It's another Testors a/b, ModelMaster GP-100. Had a date stamped on the instructions, 1999, so it's not the newest thing around but it's an internal mix, fixed double action. Came with a nice case and a couple of accessories. Twenty five bucks, brand new in the box. After knocking the inch off dust of the box  I found the sticker, $49.95.  I said "what the h...", go for it. Used it last night, works like a champ. Time will tell if my prior a/b problems go away. Thanks again.

Hud

  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: Cornebarrieu (near Blagnac), France
Posted by Torio on Thursday, November 17, 2005 2:06 PM
I think that Azteks suffer like many other things of lowering quality due to imperatives of mass production, maybe more than "metal" airbrushes, so to say that getting a new old airbrush could have been a great luck as they were better than now in the "good old days", in my opinion. The first one I owned, the 1000 if I remember well, was wonderful; then I bought a Contempo ( the blue transparent one) then a 4709 box, and the two latter made a terrible squeak when I screwed heads on them; the first one did not. I mean that they seem to be cheaper made as time goes by, so you might have found  the "oiseau rare". Congratulations  !
 

Thank you all for coming José

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