anyone got any interior aircraft wash/shading techniques?

jcfay

Member since
November 2005
From: Chicago, IL

anyone got any interior aircraft wash/shading techniques?

Posted by jcfay on Friday, November 25, 2005 2:48 PM

Howdy all - had another question for y'all (don't know why I'm talking like this since I'm from CT...). I'm a relative newbie/returing to modeling, and I'm trying to figure out a beginners technique for shading/washing the interior of aircraft. No airbrush yet (it's coming real soon) so I am just laying down basic testors enamels on the interior. Then I might dry brush a little silver on there, which helps make the interior finish a bit distressed. But I would like to lay down an interior wash to dirty the surface and I'm wondering how to do this. I've read a bunch about people working with acrylics, laying down a coat of future and then washing with thinned enamels on the exterior. But what about for the interior? Would it even be safe for me to try and do this since my base coat is enamel or would I just gnarl my base coat, even if I separated the two with a thin coat of future? Then my interior would be glossy too, thanks to the future wouldn't it? Since I'm going to begin exploring the PE/resin interior (and exterior) detail, I want to develop a nice technique for the weathering/distressing the interior of aircraft as well. Muchos gracias as always Evil [}:)]

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RichardI

Member since
February 2004
From: Canada

Posted by RichardI on Friday, November 25, 2005 4:49 PM

jcfay: the best method I have found (from FSMM) is the sludge wash method. There is an article somewhere with the complete details - hopefully somebody here can provide a link.

Make a "sludge wash" using 2 parts acrylic paint, 5 parts water, and 3 parts dishwashing liquid. Make sure this cocktail is stirred, not shaken Big Smile [:D] or you'll have a lot of bubbles. Coat the area to be sludged with a gloss coat (future would work) and let dry completely. Then slap on the sludge in the corners and so on, and let dry only 20 - 25 minutes. Then using clean, dry cotton swabs, remove the sludge in the areas you don't want it (the high areas). Works great for me.

Rich Cool [8D]

On the bench: 1/48 Revell PBY Catalina 0A-10A. Next up: Moebius 1/24 Chariot from Lost in Space.

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Friday, November 25, 2005 5:45 PM

JC - here's a pretty good rundown on the wash method:

http://www.swannysmodels.com/Weathering.html

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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jcfay

Member since
November 2005
From: Chicago, IL

Posted by jcfay on Friday, November 25, 2005 6:55 PM

Thanks guys, appreciate it. Rich - sounds like a nice technique. I know I had read somewhere about a sludge wash for the interior and its components. Since I'm only working in enamels for now I'm a little more limited. I'm thinking about trying a sludge wash of future - maybe mix a bit of my brown/black pastel chalk dust in a small quantity of the miracle polisher, wiping it on, and then wiping off the high points as you suggested. I don't know if this would work, but what the heck maybe it's worth a try! I know future can be tinted for canopies, etc. Maybe this would even allow us to skip a step - future and sludge wash in one! Tom - I've read swanny's and many others takes on exterior sludge washes. Great references, thanks, and when I try the exterior wash I'll certainly use that (although I'm undertaking a P-61 now and since it's going to be traditional black I might have to rethink this a bit). Do you use his identical technique for your interiors too, or something a wee bit different? Thanks again both of you! Big Smile [:D]

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wing_nut

Member since
April 2005
From: Piscataway, NJ!

Posted by wing_nut on Friday, November 25, 2005 10:29 PM

The pastel wash is great. But it still needs to go onto a sealed surafce such as Future or Model Master gloss lacquer. And it also needs a drop or two of dish soap to break the surface the water for it to flow and not bead up.

Marc

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Saturday, November 26, 2005 8:07 AM

JC - it's essentially identical... except you are dealing with outies versus innies.. (raised detail versus engraved panel lines)

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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jcfay

Member since
November 2005
From: Chicago, IL

Posted by jcfay on Saturday, November 26, 2005 1:40 PM

Well, I combined a bit of black/brown pastel chalk with some future (as described above) and applied it to the interior surfaces with a broad brush. Then I came back with a smaller brush and soaked up the puddles or bubbles that I didn't like the looks of. It looks pretty good! I imagine the future will seal in the pastels, and in one step too. I don't imagine that it will look as good as the sludge wash technique described by Swanny and others, but for a newbie and an interior I think it will hold up just fine. It's a little glossy, though, so maybe I'll add a little flat base in my next attempt. For the exterior, however, I will probably do it in separate steps, first seal with future and then weather/sludge wash with an acrylic mix as offered up by everyone. That will give more control, I'm sure. Thanks for the help folks. P.S. I also copied this to the complete future link. I love this stuff! Smile [:)]

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