My new Iwata HP-CP

Well the comparison show Me that I prefer orange to the apple then :D

I know they aren't in the same league (70$ vs 130$ and small tip vs general tip) But I say the Iwata is a much better all around airbrush, sure money is a factor. Send me a 100LG so I could compare :D

Vric wrote:

First test run today. Overall impression is very good. It's easier to hold than I was thinking, very comfortable. The trigger is not as sensitive than my badger, which give me much better control (on the Anthem, the difference between a 4mm line and 10mm line is nearly nothing on the trigger. which make it very hard to do a straight line) On the Iwata, there is less room for the spray and it's easier to have a steady line. The preset handle also help a lot for that. If you can't get straight line with that, you have some serious problem . The Atomisation is awesome. Much better than the badger. It use less paint to cover the same area. I tried some craft store acrylic paint, which was a paint on my badger (always cloak and need to clean the needle every 2 minutes or so) On the iwata, I had the same cloak problem, but after about 25 minutes. The overall control on this paint is very good compared to the badger. (but it's not my favorite paint type) I can't get very very thin line like the test paper come with, but I guess with other type of paint and some practice, I will be able. for now, a 2mm line is easy to do (with my badger and same paint, I couldn't less than 7mm or so.) Cleaning isn't easier. It took me about 20 minutes to clean it (My badger take 5 to 10) but again, acrylic paint is harder to clean than other type of paint. The Needle cleaned itself at about 95% just by spraying Windex cleaner. The cup also cleaned itself very easily. The only part that took me many minutes was the small damn tips. There is nothing that can enter there beside a needle.. and this is what I use to clean it. There is some dried acrylic paint in it, which explain the cloak problem at the end of the test run. The thread on the tip, which are suppose to be very "fragile" don't look like it. It's easy to screw it in with hand. So the "Plus" version have improved on that. Overall, this Iwata airbrush blow my Badger Anthem away. Much better control, more comfortable and much, much better atomisation.

Not a very fair comparison there. Try the Badger 100LG which would be the same class as that Iwata.
The Anthem was designed as a T-shirt airbrush and does not have a micro-tip like the 100LG and that Iwata have, so comparing them is an apples to oranges comparison.

Hi Tom

Just wanted to say thanks for the advice you gave me no the Iwata HP-C plus. got it from the good lady for Christmas thanks once again.Alan

First test run today.

Overall impression is very good. It's easier to hold than I was thinking, very comfortable. The trigger is not as sensitive than my badger, which give me much better control (on the Anthem, the difference between a 4mm line and 10mm line is nearly nothing on the trigger. which make it very hard to do a straight line) On the Iwata, there is less room for the spray and it's easier to have a steady line. The preset handle also help a lot for that. If you can't get straight line with that, you have some serious problem .

The Atomisation is awesome. Much better than the badger. It use less paint to cover the same area. I tried some craft store acrylic paint, which was a paint on my badger (always cloak and need to clean the needle every 2 minutes or so) On the iwata, I had the same cloak problem, but after about 25 minutes. The overall control on this paint is very good compared to the badger. (but it's not my favorite paint type) I can't get very very thin line like the test paper come with, but I guess with other type of paint and some practice, I will be able. for now, a 2mm line is easy to do (with my badger and same paint, I couldn't less than 7mm or so.)

Cleaning isn't easier. It took me about 20 minutes to clean it (My badger take 5 to 10) but again, acrylic paint is harder to clean than other type of paint. The Needle cleaned itself at about 95% just by spraying Windex cleaner. The cup also cleaned itself very easily. The only part that took me many minutes was the small damn tips. There is nothing that can enter there beside a needle.. and this is what I use to clean it. There is some dried acrylic paint in it, which explain the cloak problem at the end of the test run. The thread on the tip, which are suppose to be very "fragile" don't look like it. It's easy to screw it in with hand. So the "Plus" version have improved on that.

Overall, this Iwata airbrush blow my Badger Anthem away. Much better control, more comfortable and much, much better atomisation.

Joxy wrote:

What is the big kind of pipe on the top of the airbrush? (if i ask that it because iam new to airbrush)

That's a gravity fed brush, so the "big pipe" is the color cup, where the paint goes.

What is the big kind of pipe on the top of the airbrush?
(if i ask that it because iam new to airbrush)

Well for me, the HP-C wasn't an option. All the feature the "Plus" Version add are more than interesting. It's quite impressive tool. Yes, it's expensive (I paid 128$us on eBay from a HK seller) With the shipping, it come at the same price as Dixieart, but if you aren't in US, it's a very good alternative (cheaper, possibility to bring down the customs fees (I paid noting)) etc..) Overall, I paid 45$ than if I ordered it from DixieArt.. and btw, I asked them many question (dixie) and they always offered bad answer, like if they didn't care of me. Really not impressed by their customer service. I'm happy I didn't gave my money to them.

Also, the airbrush on picture have the crown cap, which is an extra.

congrats!!!  yeah I felt the same way after buying my HP-CR... it too has a miniscule tip compared to the Badger 155 and 175 I also own... word of caution... always put the tip back on over a clean surface, preferably even something like a towel so it doesn't bounce if it falls out of your hands or you will never find it!!!  (OK eventually I found mine.. but it was a lesson hard learned! )

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After looking back over those pics of the brush it DOES look good!!!  I have been debating between the HP-CS and the Peak C5 which is a clone of the HP-C... I might be swayed to the peak... the HP-CR does all the in between to finer stuff, the Badger 175 I have does the broad coverage.. I might as well add something for very fine stuff since I am getting into 1/72 scale aircraft now...  Looks like the Peak might win!

billc3207 wrote:

....  Iwata replacement parts are pricey.

 

yup with the tip costing 26 bucks, u BETTER be careful not to damage it.

I take a paper towel and twist a corner into a point. I dip that into some thinner and use it to clean the small tip. I would not want to use anything else for fear of damaging the tip. The brushes I mentioned are not small enough for this tip. Maybe someone else will have a suggestion for cleaning it.

Getting this tip back into its threads in the airbrush is tricky. I put the tip on the end of the needle then I lower the needle until the tips threads touch the airbrush. I can gently turn the tip until it is screwed in all the way. I snug it up with the wrench but I do that very gently. Iwata replacement parts are pricey.

Thanks for the reply ! I looked closer and yes, I see how the wrench is working now, I could remove the tip with it (there is some red oil on it) So I guess I know how to disassemble it fully now. Thanks

How do you clean this small tip ? It is so small, it's nearly scary. On my badger, it was small, but that one is about 3 time smaller :D

I'm still not sure how to clean it yet (as you said, pipe cleaner are too big) and until I'm 100% sure how to clean it, I won't try it. The small tip look to be the worst part to clean.

Thanks for info. I choose this one over the HP-CS, hope I made the good choice. So far only downside I have seen is I need to remove the handle to remove the needle, not much of a problem.

I have this same model. You will love it. It is the easiest airbrush to clean I have every had. And it does great detail work. The key as you call it is a wrench. You use it to remove the small spray tip under the two larger nozzles. There are two flats ground into the sides of this small tip and the wrench should fit those. Mine didn't so I used a file to widen the slot in the wrench. I strip my brush down and clean it thourghly after I complete a model project. That includes that small spray tip. It can collect dried paint. Spraying thinner through the brush and cleaning the needle is usually enough to keep it working properly during a project. I plan to buy some small nylon cleaning brushes in the near future. I have seen some on Micro-Mark. A pipe cleaner is a little too large to use on the interior of the brush.

Congrats! That is one sweet looking brush. Don't chunk that Badger though, it will serve you well if you need a large or heavy line.

 

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