Airbrush for 1/87 scale

hillbilly70631 wrote:

i had a badger 150 and had a fine needle with a extra fine nozzle and had awesome results in any scale and can spray a line from pencil point to 2 inch and with proper thinning it clogging is a thing of the past with this set up its like having a medium to x-fine all rolled up in one try it i did and swear by it that all i use.!!   i have a aztek and i miss my 150 i lost it to hurricainne rita in  sept 05

Hillbilly - I packed my 3 airbrushes to take with me on the evacuation from Rita.. I wasn't taking any chances!!!  When I turned around and came home, I made sure I had them up high and well padded before the storm hit..  figured it would be a couple of days before I went back to work and I could get some modeling in!!!  (The 105+ temps made that dream short lived after the storm left)

i had a badger 150 and had a fine needle with a extra fine nozzle and had awesome results in any scale and can spray a line from pencil point to 2 inch and with proper thinning it clogging is a thing of the past with this set up its like having a medium to x-fine all rolled up in one try it i did and swear by it that all i use.!!

 

i have a aztek and i miss my 150 i lost it to hurricainne rita in  sept 05

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

yup, I "test drove" my old highschool buddie's HP-B+ on some scrap Scifi Gundam kit when I visited him in Maine and compared it to my Tamiya Superfine (yea yea the Warhammer geek squad back in HS).  Seriously they are practically the SAME!!!!  'cept for mine is half the price. 

archangel571 wrote:

tho9900 wrote: You'd be limited to enamel and lacquer paints, and well thinned at that... Tamiya Acrylics sprays just fine out of a HP-B thinned to milk consistency.  The plus versions with the preset handle definitely helps in small scale.  I used the preset handle from my Tamiya SuperFine AB on a Iwata HP-BCS and boy it worked like a charm.

cool...  I know only one other person with the HP-B and they had trouble with acylics... I was thinking about the HP-B or C but was worried about acrylics as that's all I shoot.

First I will say paying more initially for your brush is ideal. You will not regret it. Quality in your painting tool is of top importance. Second, you cannot go wrong with Iwata. Go to dixieart.com and buy there. They usually have the best prices for Iwata that I have found. Do NOT buy a brush via ebay if your new to the airbrush painting world. Unless you know the ins and outs of the tool the last thing you want to do is have to tear down and investigate "why" your new model looks like something spit on it. The smallest of "burrs or inperfections" in your needle can cause serious headaches. Even more so if you have no idea how to tear down an Iwata brush and put it back together again without knowing the "touchy" bits.

Just remember, the brush not create the skill... practice makes the artist.. the artist commands the brush! Happy painting.

tho9900 wrote:

You'd be limited to enamel and lacquer paints, and well thinned at that...

Tamiya Acrylics sprays just fine out of a HP-B thinned to milk consistency. 

The plus versions with the preset handle definitely helps in small scale.  I used the preset handle from my Tamiya SuperFine AB on a Iwata HP-BCS and boy it worked like a charm.

You'd be limited to enamel and lacquer paints, and well thinned at that... they aren't expensive and at that scale they'll last forever!  Check out Model Master paints online at www.squadron.com and www.greatmodels.com, or if you have a LHS you can get them there.  They're about $2.98 each and I think 1/2 ounce which is really a lot judging by the size of that truck you posted.

 

    Yes after reading some in this forum I was thinking Iwata HP-B Plus, or the HP-SB Plus. The Plus adds a little bit more but I think would be worth it. The thing I am worried about is the paints that will go through the nozel. Would I be limited in the brands that would work, would they be expensive, and would they be hard to find? Maybe at this scale I would not need huge quantities of paint.

ahhh.. then you definitely want something in the range of the Badger 100LG with a fine tip/needle. or the Iwata HP-B.. I was thinking railroad cars... not vehicles.  The Badger is cheaper (about $65.00 at www.dixieart.com, plus another 12 or so for a hose)  The Iwata is upwards of $139.00 or so plus $12 for a hose.  The Micron we

At that scale, brush painting is also a good option though.  There would be very little camo that diffuse demarcation lines would show up.

The Badger 100 is a good bet, especially if you go for the L or LG, seeing as you can use both fine and medium heads and needles, allowing you to use it for detail and area work.

Dixiart do them for around $60, so they won't break the bank either.

Karl

    Thanks for the quick responce. Yes I am a railroader but it is the vehicles that I wish to detail. Here is an example of one that needs detail.

http://homepage.mac.com/pigeonfarmboy/Images/TTTT%20Page/MAN630L2AE-2.jpg

A camo scheme is what I am after. Money is an element so am looking for middle of the road advice.
Not my picture by the way, just one I found that shows the scale.

It depends on your expectations, skill and how much you want to invest. All things at max I would go with an Iwata Micron. Best of the best. If money is an element then an Iwata HP-C would be my choice. If money is a big concern I would go with a Badger 200.   Greg.

Either of the brushes mentioned would be great.  I am not a model railroader but for most of your painting I am assuming it would be all over coverage, multi-tone paint schemes and fine shading, am I right?  If this is the case then some other good brushes in addition to the ones listed would be the Anthem 155 (Badger), Iwata HP-CR or BCR (the BCR is bottom fed, the CR gravity fed).  I own those two, so ask around, see what you like, and come back and ask me or Bill some more questions!  You might be able to choose easier then.

to the forums! Pull up a keyboard and stay a while.

I'm assuming by the scale that you are a railroader, of which I'm not too familiar. Floquil RR Enamel is a very nice paint, and it is slanted towards the trains. Polly Scale Acrylic is also a good paint and also has a railroad line,

Airbrushes are a personal matter, and you will likely get a bewildering array of answers.

My favorite brush is the trusty Badger 150 dual action, siphon fed with medium and fine head/needles for the 1:48 modeling I do. It would serve you very well, and if you want finer lines the Badger 100LG is a dual action, gravity fed airbrush which shares parts with the 150. It would require more refills of paint compared to the siphon fed, though the color cup is quite large compared to the 100G (which is my next airbrush, don't tell the wife! Shhh).

I do note that fine heads have a greater tendency to clog than medium  heads, and the difference in line width is not that great. I use only Tamiya Acrylics for my WWII warbirds, and I thin them quite a bit with the fine head/needle combo. I know next to nothing about enamel paints, but assume that they have larger particles which could be a pain.

Good luck and Happy Hunting!