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  • Member since
    May 2007
Posted by wilson007 on Saturday, May 12, 2007 9:39 AM

Hi,

I just found this post- more regarding the adaptation of my 80 cu ft scuba tank for use with an old H-1 Pasche airbrus. Could anyone tell me what regulators, etc. I need?

THanks!!

TK 

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    April 2003
  • From: Hayward, CA
Posted by MikeV on Monday, March 20, 2006 11:24 PM
I don't think you need a water trap with a scuba tank.
They have dry air designed for humans to breath underwater.

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
  • Member since
    February 2006
Posted by kylec on Monday, March 20, 2006 11:13 PM
I got the Scuba setup done. It's basically a SCUBA primary with one high pressure and one low pressure fitting. The high pressure has a gauge that tells me how much air is left in the cylinder. The low pressure ~120psi goes to my regulator that as you know drops the pressure for the airbrush. I don't have a water trap yet, but once I get one, I'll make a bracket to hold it in place and will probably integrate an airbrush holder.

~one last thing. The latest date visible in the picture is 98. The cylinder was manufatured in 78 (that's older than me!) but its hydrostatic test is current.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y167/kylecarter/P1010309.jpg

  • Member since
    November 2005
  • From: White Mountains, NH
Posted by jhande on Friday, March 3, 2006 3:15 PM
I would like to just point something out to those people that are now having thoughts running through their heads.

You can not take your old Bar-BQ propane tank down and have it filled with oxygen, no matter how big or old it is. The federal law prohibits such refills because they are not safe.

Sorry to burst your bubble like mine was. But better now than bursting your bubble in your modeling area!



-- Jim --
"Put the pedal down & shake the ground!"

  • Member since
    February 2006
Posted by kylec on Thursday, March 2, 2006 8:24 PM
That's what I've decided to do, use the cylinder at full pressure. My dad believes one is still current, if not, hydrostatic is only $35... still way cheaper than a silent compressor. And I've already got the regulators to useBig Smile [:D]
  • Member since
    January 2004
  • From: USA
Posted by MusicCity on Thursday, March 2, 2006 7:07 PM

You'll get more than that.  An airbrush doesn't use 1 cfm except at pretty high pressure.  I did an experiment last year and I think they are more like 0.25 cfm at about 15 psi.

If the tank is still certified you could always take it to a scuba shop and have it pressurized to full pressure.  Guys who use CO2 or Nitrogen tanks typically have to have them refilled only a couple of times a year.

Scott Craig -- Nashville, TN -- My Website -- My Models Page
  • Member since
    February 2006
Posted by kylec on Thursday, March 2, 2006 4:54 PM
good call, that's my error. Thanks!
It holds 80cu ft at 3000psi, so at 100psi it will hold 2.66cu ft which only will last 18 minutes :(

  • Member since
    May 2005
  • From: Left forever
Posted by Bgrigg on Thursday, March 2, 2006 2:43 PM
 MusicCity wrote:
Pretty hefty scuba tank!


Or a very small sub! Clown [:o)]


So long folks!

  • Member since
    January 2004
  • From: USA
Posted by MusicCity on Thursday, March 2, 2006 12:46 PM
It isn't an 80 cubic foot tank.  It might hold the equivalent of 80 cubic feet of air at some specific pressure, but a tank with 80 cubic feet of static volume would be 10' long by 3.2' in diameter.  Pretty hefty scuba tank!
Scott Craig -- Nashville, TN -- My Website -- My Models Page
  • Member since
    February 2006
HP / LP Air Cylinder users
Posted by kylec on Thursday, March 2, 2006 10:06 AM
I'm going to convert one of our extra SCUBA tanks for LP air use. I used the calculation from an older post but I'm not sure if I have it correct.

80 cu ft (cylinder) x 100psi (low pressure fill)
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             14.7 psi std. pressure

=544 std. cu ft
most airbrush compressors put out a maximum of one cfm, so I will have 544 minutes of run time or a little over 9 hours?

if you use the calculation for a high pressure fill of 3000 psi, I come up with 272 hours. Confused [%-)]

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