Badger 100LG Owners

LateBloomer

Member since
December 2005
From: Portland, Oregon

Badger 100LG Owners

Posted by LateBloomer on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 10:39 PM

I have recently been using my 150 and I love it. Right now I am only limited by my abilities and I try to practice every chance I get between using the brush on my models. However after using the 150 for a time I think I am more of a gravity feed person. The bottles on the bottom seem to be awkward for me. I have been pretty much exclusively using the color cup but still...

I am thinking of getting the 100LG fine. Since the 150 and 100LG parts can be interchanged and my 150 came with both medium/heavy needles and respective tips I like the idea of getting the 100LG. My question is: Do any of you find that the 1/3 fixed cup to be too bulky? I think the 1/16th fixed cup on the 100G might be too small. Any thoughts or opinions would be greatly appreciated.

Ah, I almost forgot. The scale I mostly like to construct in is 1/35 with some 1/48. I think the 1/3 cup of the 100LG would be perfect but man, in pictures it looks huge. Shock [:O]

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MikeV

Member since
April 2003
From: Hayward, CA

Posted by MikeV on Thursday, March 9, 2006 12:00 AM

The cup size doesn't bother me at all.
Once you use it for a while it becomes natural to have it there.
You may have trouble getting the fine tip and needle to reliably spray modeling paints as it was designed for finer mediums like inks but it can be done. The medium tip and needle will be the workhorse for most of the painting you will do with that airbrush. Wink [;)]

“Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon

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smokinguns3

Member since
June 2005
From: San Tan Valley,AZ

Posted by smokinguns3 on Thursday, March 9, 2006 12:05 AM

Iam in the same boat i have a 175 and the color cup gets in the way when doing close up work and iam also thinking of the 100lg due to it being able to do vary fine line thats why they use them in nail salons and for the price at dixie art i cant beat it the air brushes in most of the store are going for 150usd and higher i also build the same scale as you with the ocasinal 1/24 so matbe we can get some input on this subject.

Rob I think i can I think i can

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KJ200

Member since
July 2003
From: Bicester, England

Posted by KJ200 on Thursday, March 9, 2006 2:22 AM

Late, I bought a 100SG, the one with the tiny colour cup, and a fine head last year for detail work, as I have an Omni4000 for area work.

However I now use the 100 for any work which requires a greater degree of control, ie soft edged camo, no matter how large. It's not that you can't acheive the results with the Omni, it's just that I have found the 100 easier to control.

As spraying problems with the fine head, I usually use Gunze acrylics thinned 50/50 with Tamiya thinner without issue. The only time I have encountered problems is with Lifecolour acrylics, but this was more due to my thinning ratios than any failing on the part of the AB.

In short go for the 100G or LG, you won't be disapointed.

Karl

Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Thursday, March 9, 2006 7:03 AM

LateBloomer wrote:

man, in pictures it looks huge.

I had the same worry before I bought my Iwata and switched from my Badger 155 and 175, the color cup is smaller than the 100LG (1/4 ounce) but I was really worried about balance issues and it getting in my line of sight. I can honestly say from the first time I sprayed, I never even noticed the cup.. The only problem I had to overcome was once in awhile rotating my hand to the side while spraying, and getting paint all over the lid of the cap and bowl of the cup.. Wink [;)]

If you paint armor, the 1/3 ounce color cup would work out great for overall color painting...

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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MikeV

Member since
April 2003
From: Hayward, CA

Posted by MikeV on Thursday, March 9, 2006 12:56 PM

tho9900 wrote:
The only problem I had to overcome was once in awhile rotating my hand to the side while spraying, and getting paint all over the lid of the cap and bowl of the cup..

That is what the cover for the cup is for. Laugh [(-D]

That is another advantage to the 1/3 oz cup, it has a lid! Thumbs Up [tup]

“Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Thursday, March 9, 2006 4:44 PM

MikeV wrote:
That is what the cover for the cup is for.
That is another advantage to the 1/3 oz cup, it has a lid!

Mine does too Mike, but it's a pain to have to clean all that paint from the inside when you do it... not a huge deal but when it's late at night and you have to do extra cleaning it just seems worse... Wink [;)]

since I use only acrylics now I just stick the cap and everything in the ultrasonic cleaner at once and it's a lot easier!

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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MikeV

Member since
April 2003
From: Hayward, CA

Posted by MikeV on Thursday, March 9, 2006 5:07 PM

Sounds good Tom.
Those ultrasonic cleaners sound cool.

“Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon

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LateBloomer

Member since
December 2005
From: Portland, Oregon

Posted by LateBloomer on Friday, March 10, 2006 8:18 AM

Thanks for all the responses! I'm gonna order one from Dixieart today. Ultrasonic cleaner? Hmm... Never thought of that. Maybe something else to look into. Smile [:)]

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Friday, March 10, 2006 7:31 PM

LB - especially for acrylic painters they are a blessing! No more spraying good windex after bad! Wink [;)]

Seriously, it's quiet, quick and uses normal tap water to do the cleaning. I've used it for enamels with success but not sure about lacquer. The best thing for me, being asthmatic is there are no fumes whatsoever. When I do a deep cleaning I pour alcohol in there and let it go 4 or more cycles before taking the parts out (I almost purely spray acrylics, you could use mineral spirits and do the same I am sure). So far no problems. It got my Iwata back spraying like the day I got it... even a 1 hour bath in lacquer thinner still left it spraying a little funky. I think I didn't have my needle seated just right and got some paint in the body of the brush (enamel), I put it in for 6 cycles or so.. when I first turned it on there was a cloud of dried Panzer yellow flakes flowing out the needle hole in front!! It looked like muddy water when I was done. The best $49.95 I have recently spent.

the best part is since it is normally just water you can dunk the whole airbrush in if need be!!!

I know someone who uses lacquer thinner in his, but for me that would be defeating the purpose of getting it, which is my lungs...

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 12, 2006 10:59 AM

You can 'lid' any gravity feed brush. Go to your local health store and get some rubber gloves. You may already have some of these if you use them in your painting.

Cut a finger tip off and stretch it over the cup once you've filled it. It will stop the sloshing. Don't make it drum tight, or it will affect the flow of the paint (create a vacuum within the cup that the air source will have to fight).

I've also considered creating a Rubbermaid-type cap lid out of RTV rubber when doing a cast. Shouldn't be hard to create a form out of a paint bottle lid or the cup itself. Just put a small breathe hole in it to stop the vacuum effect.

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archangel571

Member since
June 2005
From: NJ 07073

Posted by archangel571 on Sunday, March 12, 2006 1:36 PM

tho9900 wrote:

The best $49.95 I have recently spent.

Hey tom, did you get the sharper image one or those ebay ones?

-=Ryan=- Too many kits... so little free time. MadDocWorks

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Monday, March 13, 2006 8:50 PM

archangel571 wrote:
tho9900 wrote:

The best $49.95 I have recently spent.

Hey tom, did you get the sharper image one or those ebay ones?

Naww the Sharper image one was like 99.95, I went to Bed Bath and Beyond and got it for $49.95. you can order the same one online from Walmart and I think Target and Amazon.com for the same price...

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Monday, March 13, 2006 8:53 PM

oh yeah. and at WalMart and the others listed it also 49.95...

Don't get fooled and go to Wal Mart in person and try to buy one, they only have a SONIC jewelry cleaner in local sotck there for about $20.00 or so but it's not the same... it used sonic waves instead of Ultrasonic...

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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archangel571

Member since
June 2005
From: NJ 07073

Posted by archangel571 on Monday, March 13, 2006 10:51 PM

tho9900 wrote:

it used sonic waves instead of Ultrasonic...

LOL.

-=Ryan=- Too many kits... so little free time. MadDocWorks

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MikeV

Member since
April 2003
From: Hayward, CA

Posted by MikeV on Monday, March 13, 2006 11:02 PM

tho9900 wrote:

oh yeah. and at WalMart and the others listed it also 49.95...

Don't get fooled and go to Wal Mart in person and try to buy one, they only have a SONIC jewelry cleaner in local sotck there for about $20.00 or so but it's not the same... it used sonic waves instead of Ultrasonic...

Tom,

These ones on Ebay are only $19 and they say "Ultrasonic"

http://cgi.ebay.com/DIGITAL-ULTRASONIC-CLEANER-JEWELRY-WATCH-TATTOO-DENTAL_W0QQitemZ8913119459QQcategoryZ67720QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

“Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 7:40 AM

cool Mike! yeah that is almost identical to the one I got.. it looks about the same size. There's two different sized ones I have seen, the smaller would handle the tips and heads and such, but the larger one like you showed can handle the needle and even the whole body if need be.

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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