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Skipping Lines
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 9, 2006 8:20 AM

Last nite I gave the Badger family a lacquer bath due to dried acylic paint ( and maybe a little enamel in one ). All soaked for about an hour, then scrubbed, brushed, and blown out. Reassembled all and test fired with water. Sprayed good consistent lines on a mirror but every 20-30 seconds I would get a line skip. Brushes are a 150 and two old style 200's, all with the medium head assembly. Other brush was an Anthem, but really didn't get to test it for any great length of time. Question - Teflon head seal/Teflon needle bearing/ or compressor? I know it's weird for me to ask these questions (Badger fan), but in 20+ years, I've never had a seal go bad.

 

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Tom, the Crescendo is soaking in Createx cleaner since it was pure acrylic only - Pactra R/C paint hard dried. Wanted to see how the cleaner handles that. What a tough brush, will spray even when dirty.

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Posted by TryintoModel on Thursday, March 9, 2006 11:08 AM
I am farrrrrrrrr from any expert on this subject, but just out of curiosity, did you soak your teflon seal in the laquer Thinner?  I had some problems with my Badger back when I would clean it out with Laquer Thinner and I would sometimes leave the seal on it.  Badger sent me a new seal and it cured it right up.  I'm not positive that was the reason, but I haven't had a problem since I quit getting that seal close to Laquer Thinner.  My brush was the Badger 150.

Dave

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Posted by Bgrigg on Thursday, March 9, 2006 11:51 AM
If you soaked the entire brush in lacquer thinner I'm willing to bet that the teflon head washer AND the teflon needle bearing are done for. The head washer is easy to change, Badger recommends they install the needle bearing. Though I didn't know that when I rebuilt an ancient 150 myself. Must have done it correctly as it works.

I do know that the next time I require the head washer I'm buy more than one, just in case.

So long folks!

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  • From: Hayward, CA
Posted by MikeV on Thursday, March 9, 2006 12:47 PM
Lacquer thinner should not affect the PTFE (Teflon) needle bearing and head washer.
It will however destroy the rubber seal in the air valve.

Always clean your airbrushes well enough so that you do not have to soak them.
Also, I don't think that Createx cleaner is strong enough to remove dried acrylics but maybe it will work.
I would use lacquer on it also if it is that bad.

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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  • From: SETX. USA
Posted by tho9900 on Thursday, March 9, 2006 4:49 PM

Elliot - the Createx might not be strong enough as Mike said, but Simple Green, Castrol Super Clean or as mentioned, Lacquer thinner will do the trick if the Createx doesn't.

I recently bought me one of those Ultrasonic Jewelry cleners and it gets most stuff out with no probs.  I even put a paint mixing jar in it with a decent amount of dried paint in the bottom and with plain water it got about 90% of the paint out in 2 cycles.  I'm experimenting with using 70% and 90% isopropyl in it now to see if it can tacke those tougher jobs well.

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 9, 2006 5:23 PM

Yep, soaked the body minus the air valve. I agree with Mike, the needle bearing is not affected by lacquer thinner. Hooked the Anthem and 150 up to a can of propellent - Anthem smooth, 150 stuttered. I believe it is the head assembly seal.

The Createx cleaner worked on the 175, but it does not dissolve the paint the way thinner does. It "debonds" it from the surface, so you have to scrub most the paint particles loose. More labor, but less mess and fumes. Plus you have to soak overnite, unlike an hour or so for thinner.

Now how did this all happen? Had an all out acrylic sprayfest, Polly Scale, Tamiya, and MM Acryl. Two hours worth. That was during the holidays and I was too lazy to clean them at the time. Next thing I knew it was March. All that I still "hate" acrylics. I just don't have the patience to be easy with paint, although I may try Polly Scale again. MM enamels are very forgiving with little prep other than thinning. Thanks for all the help!

 

E

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Posted by MusicCity on Thursday, March 9, 2006 9:19 PM

Yep, soaked the body minus the air valve. I agree with Mike, the needle bearing is not affected by lacquer thinner. Hooked the Anthem and 150 up to a can of propellent - Anthem smooth, 150 stuttered. I believe it is the head assembly seal.

Those Teflon head seals will cause them to stutter if they get flattened or distorted.  I have an old Badger 200 that is the same way.  I went through a couple of seals before I noticed a paragraph i nthe instructions that recommended loosening the head prior to storing it to prevent the head seal from getting flattened.  When I got my 100 I just got in the same habit of loosening the head when I finish using it and haven't had any problems.

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