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I have been wasting money on Tamiya paints

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Posted by Phil_H on Tuesday, May 9, 2006 9:31 PM

 Jeff Herne wrote:
I can't say for sure, but waaay back in the day, I used to brush Tamiya acrylics with no troubles. Sometime around the early 90s, that changed and today I refuse to brush Tamiya acrylics.

They spray very well, but when I brush them, even thinned, they tend to clump up. I experimented awhile ago trying to find a workaround - adding gel medium, adding more thinner, more pigment (by scooping it from an unshaken second jar), but had no luck.

I think it's the carrier itself, it seems to be an aggressive acrylic that skins too quickly when brushed. It 's aggressive because it immediately attacks any coats that are not completely dried underneath.

I love the way it sprays, but when it comes to brush painting, I'm stuck on Vallejo for acrylics and Humbrols on the enamel side.

Jeff


Thanks Jeff, that's good to know. I have just returned from a long break from the hobby and was going to use up my "old stocks" of mid-80's Tamiya's (some of them never opened before) before buying any more, but now I might hold onto them for detail painting and buy new ones for base colours and wide-area spraying.

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Posted by Triarius on Tuesday, May 9, 2006 7:05 PM
 MikeV wrote:

What's a "brush?" Laugh [(-D]Clown [:o)]


That's when your long, gray beard drags through the finish… Tongue [:P]

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Posted by MikeV on Tuesday, May 9, 2006 6:21 PM
 Phil_H wrote:

Yep, I have some which date back to the early 80's as well, which are still good.

Whilst we're on the subject (well, sort of, anyway, and apologies for hijacking the thread), does anyone know if it's true that Tamiya changed their paint formula at some point since the initial release?

From reading the forum, it seems that people have had all sorts of problems with Tamiya acrylics, but my experience of Tamiya's acrylics from the early-mid 80s was that the flat colours went down (by brush) very well, had amazing self-levelling properties and dried to a silky-smooth finish.

Has this changed or is it a case of anti-acrylic paranoia? Big Smile [:D]



What's a "brush?" Laugh [(-D]Clown [:o)]

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Posted by Jeff Herne on Tuesday, May 9, 2006 11:41 AM
I can't say for sure, but waaay back in the day, I used to brush Tamiya acrylics with no troubles. Sometime around the early 90s, that changed and today I refuse to brush Tamiya acrylics.

They spray very well, but when I brush them, even thinned, they tend to clump up. I experimented awhile ago trying to find a workaround - adding gel medium, adding more thinner, more pigment (by scooping it from an unshaken second jar), but had no luck.

I think it's the carrier itself, it seems to be an aggressive acrylic that skins too quickly when brushed. It 's aggressive because it immediately attacks any coats that are not completely dried underneath.

I love the way it sprays, but when it comes to brush painting, I'm stuck on Vallejo for acrylics and Humbrols on the enamel side.

Jeff


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Posted by Phil_H on Tuesday, May 9, 2006 11:22 AM

Yep, I have some which date back to the early 80's as well, which are still good.

Whilst we're on the subject (well, sort of, anyway, and apologies for hijacking the thread), does anyone know if it's true that Tamiya changed their paint formula at some point since the initial release?

From reading the forum, it seems that people have had all sorts of problems with Tamiya acrylics, but my experience of Tamiya's acrylics from the early-mid 80s was that the flat colours went down (by brush) very well, had amazing self-levelling properties and dried to a silky-smooth finish.

Has this changed or is it a case of anti-acrylic paranoia? Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by Triarius on Tuesday, May 9, 2006 10:37 AM
 J-Hulk wrote:
You know, some of the jumbo jars I have are from when I first moved over here in 1993...and the paint's still fine!


That's nothing. My oldest Tamiya paints date from 1982—I wrote the date on the jar—and they are still fine. What's more, they've been exposed to 120° heat and subzero temperatures multiple times. Still fine.

<Beaver construction> fine paint!

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Posted by J-Hulk on Tuesday, May 9, 2006 10:24 AM

 gulfstreamV wrote:
Their website still shows they have them.  in th U.S.

Big American size!

You know, some of the jumbo jars I have are from when I first moved over here in 1993...and the paint's still fine!

~Brian
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Posted by eizzle on Monday, May 8, 2006 9:45 PM

If you order online any, you may want to have a look here. I have had nothing but good luck with this place, and for the price it seems like a good deal to me if your ordering quite a few!

http://www.hobbylinc.com/cgi-bin/s6.cgi?cat_s=RHG&age=&mfg_s=tam&str=&sort_i=0&show_i=0

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Posted by Phil_H on Monday, May 8, 2006 7:35 PM

Sad to say that the large bottles have been unavailable here in the land of Oz for several years now too. Some places still have some old stocks, which generally go for the same price s the small bottles.

No, they didn't drop the price when the small bottles were introduced, they just came in at the same price as the large ones... Angry [:(!]  Censored [censored]

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Posted by MikeV on Monday, May 8, 2006 6:19 PM
 gulfstreamV wrote:
Their website still shows they have them.  in th U.S.


Better move back to the U.S. J-Hulk. Laugh [(-D]

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by MikeV on Monday, May 8, 2006 6:18 PM
 styrene wrote:

 MikeV wrote:
I have been buying the little "Mini" 10 ml bottles of Tamiya acrylics for $1.99 a bottle and noticed the other day while in the LHS that the bigger 23 ml bottles are only $2.90 each.
I could be buying many of these colors in more than double the quantity for only $.91 more!

 

Hey, Mike,

I hear the 5 gallon buckets are even more economical! Big Smile [:D]

Gip



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Posted by gulfstreamV on Monday, May 8, 2006 2:36 PM
Their website still shows they have them.  in th U.S.
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Posted by J-Hulk on Monday, May 8, 2006 12:16 PM

 RadMax8 wrote:
Lucky! The LHS here only carries the minis.... I might have to talk to my buddy about that one...

The minis are all they sell here in Japan anymore. I still have a bunch of the jumbos, but Tamiya doesn't make 'em anymore. Old stock is the only hope!

~Brian
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Posted by styrene on Monday, May 8, 2006 8:33 AM

 MikeV wrote:
I have been buying the little "Mini" 10 ml bottles of Tamiya acrylics for $1.99 a bottle and noticed the other day while in the LHS that the bigger 23 ml bottles are only $2.90 each.
I could be buying many of these colors in more than double the quantity for only $.91 more!

 

Hey, Mike,

I hear the 5 gallon buckets are even more economical! Big Smile [:D]

Gip

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Posted by tho9900 on Sunday, May 7, 2006 6:59 PM

That's like the 30ml bottle of X-20a thinner being about 4 bucks and lasts maybe one or two paint sessions... the 250ml one??? about 6 bucks and it can last a year or more...(as opposed to forever)... go figure!

 

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Posted by MikeV on Sunday, May 7, 2006 4:21 PM
 Triarius wrote:
 RadMax8 wrote:
Forever? wow, I guess $2.90 is a great deal!Wink [;)]


Well, over twenty years with no significant ill effects—properly cared for and stored.


I used up an entire Mini bottle of XF-53 already and bought another.
If I would have bought the bigger bottle I would still be doing good.

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by Triarius on Sunday, May 7, 2006 3:57 PM
 RadMax8 wrote:
Forever? wow, I guess $2.90 is a great deal!Wink [;)]


Well, over twenty years with no significant ill effects—properly cared for and stored.

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Posted by RadMax8 on Sunday, May 7, 2006 3:53 PM
Forever? wow, I guess $2.90 is a great deal!Wink [;)]
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Posted by Triarius on Sunday, May 7, 2006 3:47 PM
Sorry, Mike, should have thought to tell you.

You can still get the larger bottles online, many places, you just have to look.

The nicest thing about the big bottles is that they last forever.

Ross Martinek A little strangeness, now and then, is a good thing… Wink

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Posted by archangel571 on Sunday, May 7, 2006 3:28 PM
That's weird... my LHS only has the big ones.  I'd actually prefer the smaller bottles for colors like sky blue or something like that.
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Posted by Bgrigg on Sunday, May 7, 2006 2:46 PM
Lucky indeed. I haven't seen the big bottles for years.

So long folks!

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Posted by RadMax8 on Sunday, May 7, 2006 2:43 PM
Lucky! The LHS here only carries the minis.... I might have to talk to my buddy about that one...
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I have been wasting money on Tamiya paints
Posted by MikeV on Sunday, May 7, 2006 2:11 PM
I have been buying the little "Mini" 10 ml bottles of Tamiya acrylics for $1.99 a bottle and noticed the other day while in the LHS that the bigger 23 ml bottles are only $2.90 each.
I could be buying many of these colors in more than double the quantity for only $.91 more! Banged Head [banghead]
Oh well, live and learn. SoapBox [soapbox]

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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