What's a good partner to a Badger 175 Crescendo?

mikeiw wrote:

Tom / Ed, yet more nuggets of useful info... I wish more of the threads were like this one. I'll check it out over the weekend.  If I ordered from outside the European Union, any import might be subject to Import Duy, of it's over a certain value, or gets picked up & rattled by HM Customs & Excise when it enters the country.  On small priced items that shouldn't be a problem, but the Post Office charge an exorbitant sum for collecting the duty, which in proportion to the cost of the item AND the duty bumps the price up a LOT...

ok I did some digging for ya and found out the Badger 100LG is 99.99 pounds at www.Hannants.co.uk, at www.dixieart.com it is 36 pounds (equivalent) plus about $20 for shipping (10 pounds? cost)  I think you are subject to VAT tax so I couldn't figure that in but it looks to come in around the same price or a little less than the H&S Evolution if you ordered it from the states. 

The H&S is 110.00 Euros which without shipping comes to 74 pounds... the Badger 100LG from dixieart comes in approximately at about 57 pounds or so without the extra needle and tip combo including shipping, but not figuring in VAT...

I guess it boils down to when ya want to receive your new brush... if its worth a few extra shekels (just to introduce one more currency type haha) then H&S.. if you are not wanting to spend a ton, then dixieart and wait a few weeks, although the savings is not significant as in compared to hannants... I'd stay away from the 100LG at hannants... a bit on the high side which is par for hobby shops here too! 

But if you get either the H&S Evolution or 100LG spare parts are available in the UK for both...

I'd try to see what is avaialable (along with spare parts) locally to you... if not that, then what is available by mail order from your side of the pond..  the Harder and Steenbeck Evolution line is supposedly one of the top brushes on your side and it ships from www.obeeliks.com in Belgium I believe....

This one looked good if you browse through there, pretty much the equiv of the 100LG with fine and medium tips.

Harder & Steenbeck Airbrush Evolution Silverline 0.2 + 0.4 mm But first I'd check locally..  you don't want to wait 3 weeks for a replacement needle to arrive all the way from the US.

not sure what the Euro to pound conversion is but it might be a bit pricey for ya... in that case ordering a brush and a few spare needles and tips from a local source or even www.dixieart.com might be a better outlook.  I have friends in AU who say it is cheaper than buying the brush locally even with international shipping....

Hippy-Ed wrote:

NP mikeiw  Keep us posted on what you decide to get. Tom can probably give ya the scoop on some gravity fed A/Bs

Tried to get hold of a Thayer & Chandler 'brush, as the omni 4000 was supposed to be a goodie, but they seem a bit hard to find over here in the good 'ole U of K...

mikeiw wrote:

Thanks Ed & Thom - saved me wasting a few quid on one   a quid = £1 = $1.89058

Thanks Ed & Thom - saved me wasting a few quid on one

a quid = £1 = $1.89058

mikeiw wrote:

Can't beat a stunning display of advanced silliness to break up the monotony of the day, can you? Watching a Badger 155 Anthem on evil-bay right now... would that compliment my 175, or be a bit more like duplication?

mikeiw wrote:

From airbrushes to Touch'n'Flow applicators in one easy lesson! I could say but what the heck?

MikeV wrote:

Wise guy huh?

jwb wrote:

"What's a good partner to a Badger....." Maybe a ferret, or a chinchilla? Sorry, couldn't help myself.....

Hippy-Ed wrote:

Very informative  link Tom I've never used the TNF or Tenex but, from all I've heard, it's the Bomb. I will see what I can do on getting it in Reno while I'm there. Gonna be a quick trip up & back as I'm going up to drive a car back with of all things...A Cat in a cageThe Hotel don't allow cats but, does have a Dog Kennel tho Thanks for the run down Tom on this

Eddie - if nothing else, try a bottle of Ambroids pro-weld.. about $3.95 here.. works much the same way except you brush it on with a brush already supplied in the bottle.  Not near as hot but will weld the pieces together.  either solvent will allow you to go an inch or so at a time along a seam allowing you time to line it up before you glue... Tenax is better with the drawback of being a bit hotter and needing the glass applicator... Ambroids is not as hot but sometimes you won't get the seam penetration that Tenax would... both work.. both have good points and bad... both are head and tails above tube cement and some of the other liquid cements...  these are actually plastic weld agents...

tho9900 wrote:

eizzle wrote: It won't clog it Ed. The only thing thats going to clog it is getting melted plastic on the end of the needle, but that can be solved by a quick bath for the tip in the Tenax bottle. If/when you get it, you will be suprised, cause the way it works, but you are supposed to stick the tube in the glue and let it suck it up, now I figured that it would run out, or that I would have glue all over me from the tube being in the bottle, but the stuff doesn't run out, and it evaporates FAST! Good luck at the casinos, and if you hit it big, don't forget your buddies   Oh, and... your welcome jinx....  (double no take backs! )

eizzle wrote:

It won't clog it Ed. The only thing thats going to clog it is getting melted plastic on the end of the needle, but that can be solved by a quick bath for the tip in the Tenax bottle. If/when you get it, you will be suprised, cause the way it works, but you are supposed to stick the tube in the glue and let it suck it up, now I figured that it would run out, or that I would have glue all over me from the tube being in the bottle, but the stuff doesn't run out, and it evaporates FAST! Good luck at the casinos, and if you hit it big, don't forget your buddies   Oh, and... your welcome

jinx....  (double no take backs! )

It won't clog it Ed. The only thing thats going to clog it is getting melted plastic on the end of the needle, but that can be solved by a quick bath for the tip in the Tenax bottle. If/when you get it, you will be suprised, cause the way it works, but you are supposed to stick the tube in the glue and let it suck it up, now I figured that it would run out, or that I would have glue all over me from the tube being in the bottle, but the stuff doesn't run out, and it evaporates FAST! Good luck at the casinos, and if you hit it big, don't forget your buddies

Oh, and... your welcome

Eddie - the Tenax is about $5 to $6 a bottle here but it lasts a looong time.  The glass tube applicator is about $5 here.. .it's really worth it for the above mentioned reasons...  word of caution:  never "push" the applicator across the plastic, always pull it toward you.  It melts the plastic pretty fast and will clog the tip if you do that...

here's a good guide on one way to apply it... 

http://www.accurate-miniatures.com/builds/sbd/sbdbuild05.shtml

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just read anothe post ya made.. if the plastic clogs the tip just sit the tip in the Tenax for a minute or so and BAM!!!  it's all dissolved.. Tenax is like water... literally...   it won't clog the tip...

Hippy-Ed wrote:

tho9900 wrote: Eddie - it really is that good (with the touch and flow gadget) .. everything said before is true AND when gluing a wing on in most cases I have been able to get the wing flush up to the root with no gap... I just fold a piece of med-fine grit sandpaper in half to get in at where the plastic bubbled up and no seam! What's the going price for this? Can I pick it up at the LHS? I'm going to Reno on Friday & I'll probably hit High Sierra Models while I'm there Thanks to espins1 who informed me it's a decent shop awhile back. I agree and have been there several times already I don't have a LHS here anymore & that's the next best thing I can find at the moment Also, gives me a good excuse to tag along when dad's headed to Reno

Ed, I think I paid around $7-8 for my Touch N Flow. Its just a small glass tube with a needle in the end, but it makes using the stuff so very much easier, and it will save you from ruining about a 1/4 bottle of Tenax, cause when you dip a brush in there, you get melted plastic in it from the brush, and that tends to dilute the glue. I would recommend it, I would also mention, get yourself some of the paint tubes, the ones that Testers sells with the mixing bottles, and use that to draw that glue into the TNF, cause I couldn't hardly ever get it to go the right way! If you get one and you have any questions, just ask, I'm sure a lot of us can help you out! Good luck Ed!

tho9900 wrote:

Eddie - it really is that good (with the touch and flow gadget) .. everything said before is true AND when gluing a wing on in most cases I have been able to get the wing flush up to the root with no gap... I just fold a piece of med-fine grit sandpaper in half to get in at where the plastic bubbled up and no seam!

What's the going price for this? Can I pick it up at the LHS? I'm going to Reno on Friday & I'll probably hit High Sierra Models while I'm there Thanks to espins1 who informed me it's a decent shop awhile back. I agree and have been there several times already I don't have a LHS here anymore & that's the next best thing I can find at the moment Also, gives me a good excuse to tag along when dad's headed to Reno

Eddie - it really is that good (with the touch and flow gadget) .. everything said before is true AND when gluing a wing on in most cases I have been able to get the wing flush up to the root with no gap... I just fold a piece of med-fine grit sandpaper in half to get in at where the plastic bubbled up and no seam!