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Iwata HP-c or? HEEEEELPPPPPP
Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 10, 2003 1:48 PM
I currently use a Aztec pile of doo doo airbrush. I am ready and willing to step up into something much nicer. Should I go with an Iwata Hp-c or something else with the same performance for a little cheaper? ADvice? What would you buy if you were to do it all over again? If you could include the model #'s in your posts that would help for my ebay searching!! Thanks everyone!!
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Posted by stinger on Sunday, August 10, 2003 2:24 PM
Pharoah - Know what you mean. This topic shows up everywhere on this site. Not to be dismissive, but read through some of the other threads on this subject. I posted one a while back called 'Poll: Ultimate airbrush" and received a lot of great advice. That advice, and some research on my own, led me to buy an Iwata HP-CS. Read the post by Snowy for more on that.
Also, I would never buy this item from Ebay. Their are some threads about airbrushes that show that you can usually get better prices from mail order suppliers (with free shipping, too). The same goes for some model kits, also.
Here are some sites that might help you.
www.iwata-medea.com
www.dixieart.com
www.greatmodels.com
Hope this helps. Stinger

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Posted by stinger on Sunday, August 10, 2003 2:33 PM
PS - The item # for my Iwata HP-CS is ECL 4500. Don't know #'s for the other models or other brands. Also, just because I like my Iwata doesn't mean that their aren't others out there that are just as good. One thing I did notice about my Iwata is that I had to develop a different "hold" on the brush to use it, compared to my Badger. If you can, go to a store that sells different types, hold them in hand and see what feels best for you. I think there are many who would say that ease of actual use, and the results obtained from that, can sometimes outweigh a few extra minutes of cleaning. Good luck. Stinger

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 10, 2003 4:35 PM
I also used to use an Aztek and replaced it with an Iwata Eclipse HP-BS and am very happy with it.
It has a well-balanced feel, easy to clean and performs well.
I got it for $89.95 delivered from Dixieart.
If I had it to do all over again I would buy the same unit.

Our unofficial airbrush guru (although he staunchly denies it!Big Smile [:D])MikeV is a big advocate of the Thayer and Chandler/Badger Omni series as a less expensive alternative to the Iwatas. Remember to consider the cost of replacement parts as well.

This is just my 2 cents worth since you were asking for units to consider. Take your time with your research and you will end up with the right airbrush for yourself.Smile [:)]

Merlin
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 10, 2003 6:09 PM
BAh!!! I have narrowed it down to the Iwata HP-C or the Omni/Thayer 6000 series. Is the quality of the iwata that much better? Its about a 40 dollar difference.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 10, 2003 6:46 PM
I wouldn't make a decision based on what's currently available on ebay if that's the case.

Do you really need an HP-C? If you're considering Iwata I don't think you need to go beyond the Eclipse or Revolution series for modeling purposes.

You can get an Omni 5000 [gravity feed] for $67.50 or Iwata Revolution for $59.00 [w/o hoses] from Dixieart, no shipping charge.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 10, 2003 9:15 PM
where did you find those prices? I looked on the site and they were a bit more spendy?
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 10, 2003 9:20 PM
nevermind. I'm blind tonight!!!!
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 10, 2003 9:44 PM
Iwata Hp C is NOT for models.
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Posted by MikeV on Sunday, August 10, 2003 11:32 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by merlin V1650

Our unofficial airbrush guru (although he staunchly denies it!Big Smile [:D])MikeV is a big advocate of the Thayer and Chandler/Badger Omni series as a less expensive alternative to the Iwatas. Remember to consider the cost of replacement parts as well.


Guru? Haha. You guys crack me up. Big Smile [:D]

Pharoah,

The HP-C *might* work for model paints but it was designed for thin mediums like water colors and other mediums that flow well through very small tips and needles. I would look at the Omni, Vega, Eclipse, Anthem, 360 or Matrix airbrushes. Some people also like the Paasche VL and the Crescendo so I have narrowed it down to 8 choices. Big Smile [:D]

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 11, 2003 11:08 AM
I went with the iwata eclipse from dixiart. I picked up the siphon feed version. Thanks for all your help everyone.
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Posted by MikeV on Monday, August 11, 2003 7:33 PM
Good choice Pharoah.

Just remember to NEVER soak the airbrush in lacquer thinner because it will destroy the needle bearing in that Iwata.
If you are going to be spraying a lot of toxic paints through it then I would use it until the needle bearing wears out and then send it to Coast Airbrush to have a Teflon needle bearing put in it. They are impervious to lacquers, urethanes, etc. Wink [;)]

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 11, 2003 8:29 PM
MikeV, I got the Badger Universal 360. Any precautions I need to be aware of?
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Posted by MikeV on Tuesday, August 12, 2003 6:57 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by hou_ge2000

MikeV, I got the Badger Universal 360. Any precautions I need to be aware of?


I wasn't sure what needle bearing the 360 had so I asked a friend and here is what he told me to pass on to you:

The needle bearings in the 360 and the Crescendo are teflon from the factory and will not be affected by solvents.
But, don't soak the airvalve or anything else wiith an o-ring on it.

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 12, 2003 9:43 AM
Mike, thanks so much for your help. I know who to talk to if I need some assistance from now on with the airbrush!!
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Posted by MikeV on Tuesday, August 12, 2003 7:43 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Unknownpharoah

Mike, thanks so much for your help. I know who to talk to if I need some assistance from now on with the airbrush!!


Uh oh! [:0] Haha.

I'll help if I can.

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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