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jwb
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Airbrushing......grrrr.....
Posted by jwb on Sunday, May 21, 2006 1:08 PM
First- my hats off to all of you who do such great jobs airbrushing.

I just tried it.

Now I understand why everyone says "It takes practice."

Good thing I tried it out on some test surfaces and a "throw-away" .

When I get my own airbrush...... I see I'll need to set aside plenty of practice time.

It's obvious it's worth doing. And now it's obvious it takes some patience.

Jon Bius

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"For I know the plans I have for you," declares the Lord, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future." ~ Jeremiah 29:11

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Posted by KJ200 on Sunday, May 21, 2006 1:24 PM
Jon, it's always a little bit of a come down when you first use an AB, I know it was for me.

Best advice, get yourself a decent AB and a compressor, and practise.

Having your own comp. makes a huge difference, as it allows you to practise without having to deal with the vagaries of air cans, which just make the AB experience more frustrating.

Best of luck.

Karl

Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

jwb
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Posted by jwb on Sunday, May 21, 2006 2:06 PM
I saw that right away. The one I was using had canned air. The AB wasn't too bad- just figuring out how far too push down/pull back, etc. But you could see a definite change as the can got cold.

I also played with the paint thinning a bit. That'll take some experiments, too.

It was a let down, you're right. Although there was one part of the test plane I shot that I thought "That's what I was going for!" So there's light at the end of the tunnel.


Jon Bius

AgapeModels.com- Modeling with a Higher purpose

"For I know the plans I have for you," declares the Lord, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future." ~ Jeremiah 29:11

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Posted by Bgrigg on Sunday, May 21, 2006 2:35 PM
Milk jugs. Plastic milk jugs. Get lots, and practice lots. The only way to learn is by making mistakes ('course if that was really true I would be a freaking genius! Wink [;)]) If you have an airbrush, but not a compressor, go and buy a large truck tire tube and fill that up. Lasts longer than a propel can and cheaper! Don't waste any more money on the propel cans. Even a cheap wallyworld or harbor freight garage compressor is better than propel cans, and can refill your car and bike tires.

So long folks!

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Posted by jhande on Monday, May 22, 2006 9:18 AM
John, I have to agree... get a cheap air compressor from Wal*Mart at least instead of those cans of air or else you'll be fighting a never ending battle.

What worked for me, maybe something will help you? -
I bought a cheap quart of enamel paint, I work with enamels mostly, and a gallon of cheap thinner. Mixed up a small batch ready for a day of test spraying. I was kind of used to mixing paint from my previous jobs.
I practiced painting on all kinds of things but using the full trigger down and back postion first. Adjusting my air pressure and spraying distance until I aquired somewhat decent results.
I then followed along with some test patterns that I found in AB'ing books and on the internet. Practing just one step at a time until I felt comfortable with it. Such as spraying dots first, then lines, etc...
I found taking it step by step and not rushing it, the process wasn't so overwhelming and fustrating. I knew if I became too fustrated the AB would have started collecting dust and I didn't want that to happen, LOL.

Like a new born baby learning to walk or learning to ride a bike, learning to swim, learning to drive a car, learning how to make a baby - oop's sorry Blush [:I], it all takes time and pratice.  Wink [;)]

Sometimes the fun part is in the learning too.  Big Smile [:D]

P.S. WARNING - The wife won't appreciate the cat being painted to look like a skunk.  Tongue [:P]

-- Jim --
"Put the pedal down & shake the ground!"

jwb
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Posted by jwb on Monday, May 22, 2006 10:26 AM
 jhande wrote:
John, I have to agree... get a cheap air compressor from Wal*Mart at least instead of those cans of air or else you'll be fighting a never ending battle.


I think I'm going to do that. Having to spray in short bursts or wait long periods for the can to thaw was a pain.

 jhande wrote:
I practiced painting on all kinds of things but using the full trigger down and back postion first. Adjusting my air pressure and spraying distance until I aquired somewhat decent results.


Thant makes a lot of sense. I'd tried to approach it the other way, and that was frustrating. Working from the other direction- simple. Obvious.

Must be why I didn't think of it. LOL

 jhande wrote:


P.S. WARNING - The wife won't appreciate the cat being painted to look like a skunk.  Tongue [:P]



Oh, it's on now. We have a black cat. I have some extra white paint. Pepe Le Pew anyone? ;-)

Jon Bius

AgapeModels.com- Modeling with a Higher purpose

"For I know the plans I have for you," declares the Lord, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future." ~ Jeremiah 29:11

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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Monday, May 22, 2006 11:18 AM
Well, I have the Harbor Freight Hobby airbrush compressor which works pretty good. I've been practicing with the Badger 175 I recently acquired here on the boards. I'm waiting for the Paasche Regulator from Dixie Art to come in on the 24th so I can cut the air pressure down to 12-15 psi & really start Badgering stuff around hereMischief [:-,] I practice on 5 gal. buckets & I have yet to start on something productive as I am getting the general coverage down at different distances & once the regulator comes in I can get more into the detail type of painting...
My g.f. has a cat & if it comes anywhere near me while I'm sprayingEvil [}:)]Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] It'll get BadgeredYeah!! [yeah] of course, I run the risk of finding a new hole in my head from a .357Shock [:O]

One thing I did when I first got the A/B hooked up was  try and control the air/paint flow which of course was a bit frustrating and then I just said what the heck,... let's open 'er up, let 'er rip!! I like it & have got probably 10 hrs. of air time on it so farBig Smile [:D]

Just got about 20 mins on an Iwata Eclipse over the weekend spraying a T-shirt which was interesting

If you lose your sense of humor, you've lost everything
jwb
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Posted by jwb on Monday, May 22, 2006 12:44 PM
 Hippy-Ed wrote:
Well, I have the Harbor Freight Hobby airbrush compressor which works pretty good.



This one?

Jon Bius

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"For I know the plans I have for you," declares the Lord, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future." ~ Jeremiah 29:11

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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Monday, May 22, 2006 1:13 PM
 jwb wrote:
 Hippy-Ed wrote:
Well, I have the Harbor Freight Hobby airbrush compressor which works pretty good.



This one?


Pretty much the same one. Mine is the 40psi. This wone is set for 35psi & a tad newer. I haven't had a problem with it & I've had mine for the past 2 yrs. now. Was using the HF Hobby air brush single action (internal mix) until I stepped up to the Badger 175
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 22, 2006 1:47 PM

Hey Jon,

If you don't have an airbrush compressor...While the harbor freight one works, spend an extra $20 @  Wal-Mart and get a small C&H with a 2 gallon tank. That way it's not continuously running. They're decent enough, not really quiet while the tanks filling, but there's a trade off with everything right?

 

Or there might be another option but I'll have to take a peek in the tool room before I mention it.

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Posted by Bgrigg on Monday, May 22, 2006 2:36 PM
Chuck another $20 at it and buy a 50' hose and it gets much quieter! Smile [:)]

So long folks!

jwb
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Posted by jwb on Monday, May 22, 2006 3:08 PM
What do y'all think of this one?

It's a 1 gallon tank, but it's closer to what I can pay. (Money is a real issue right now.... and will be for the forseeable future.)

It's a Campbell Hausfeld like H2O_MARK suggested, but it's $25 less than the 2 gallon, and believe me, that's a huge difference.

Jon Bius

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"For I know the plans I have for you," declares the Lord, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future." ~ Jeremiah 29:11

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 22, 2006 6:23 PM

Jon,

Really any air compressor is better than none believe me! Canned air is pretty expensive and not really the best method. As the can is used the temp drops and as it gets cold it can really ruin a day! If you must use canned air get a small pot and fill it with warm ( read: almost hot ) water and put the air can in there, that will help regulate the air cans temperature.

Now here's my spare compressor...it's an older Paasche D500 with a Watts  0-60 PSI regulator, I bought for it a year ago I think it was about $40 for the regulator at a hobby shop.





I'm sending you a PM right after I post this so if you don't get it please let me know.
Rob

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 22, 2006 6:25 PM

ARGH I thought I resized all of those pics....Oh well sorry bout that folks!

Jon...PM sent!Smile [:)]

jwb
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Posted by jwb on Monday, May 22, 2006 7:18 PM
Got your PM!

Jon Bius

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"For I know the plans I have for you," declares the Lord, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future." ~ Jeremiah 29:11

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Posted by MikeV on Monday, May 22, 2006 7:47 PM
 Bgrigg wrote:
Chuck another $20 at it and buy a 50' hose and it gets much quieter! Smile [:)]


Spend another $300 and get this one. Wink [;)]


Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 22, 2006 8:26 PM

 MikeV wrote:
 Bgrigg wrote:
Chuck another $20 at it and buy a 50' hose and it gets much quieter! Smile [:)]


Spend another $300 and get this one. Wink [;)]


LOL Mike was that an offer? Joking aside I've looked at some of those high end specialty compressors and I would LOVE to have one...maybe someday, what's the lotto up to again? LOL

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Posted by MikeV on Monday, May 22, 2006 8:30 PM
That is the one I use, the Badger Million-Air.
Great compressor and real quiet.

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by looper on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 9:41 AM
jon, the Campbell Hausfeld you posted is the first compressor i bought. i only had it for one day, it got the job done but the noise was too much for me.
Andy
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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 9:48 AM
The HF Hobby compressor isn't too bad as far as noise goes. I'd say it' sabout the same level if not a little quieter than one of those air pumps ya plug into the cigarette lighter for the tires.Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 12:49 PM
Jon,
Sent you another PM.
jwb
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Posted by jwb on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 3:31 PM
 H2O_MARK wrote:
Jon,
Sent you another PM.


Got it! Reply sent.

Jon Bius

AgapeModels.com- Modeling with a Higher purpose

"For I know the plans I have for you," declares the Lord, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future." ~ Jeremiah 29:11

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