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  • From: Cape Town, South Africa
Applying varnish with an airbrush
Posted by Yura K on Monday, May 22, 2006 10:27 AM
I'm a newbie when it comes to airbrushes, I only got mine not too long ago. Up to now, I've been airbrushing on the paint scheme, but using a paint brush to apply the finishing varnish (to seal the decals, etc.). Not surprisingly, that sometimes leaves brush marks. I'm using Humbrol enamels.

I'm thinking of airbrushing on the varnish onto my latest model (1/48 Bf-109D) , but I'm not sure whether it needs thinning, what to thin it with, etc. Or is there perhaps airbrush-ready version outh there? Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Smile [:)]
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Posted by MikeV on Monday, May 22, 2006 1:15 PM
What are you using?
Most people use Future floor polish.

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Posted by Yura K on Monday, May 22, 2006 1:19 PM
Yes, I've heard a lot about Future, but we don't have that here in South Africa (b.t.w., I live in Cape Town). I'm currently using Humbrol Clear Gloss and Clear Satin for finishing.
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Posted by Bgrigg on Monday, May 22, 2006 1:42 PM
From Swanny's {url=http://www.swannysmodels.com/TheCompleteFuture.html]The Complete  Future[/url]

In South Africa look for "Mr. Muscle" in a pink plastic bottle with the "Future" logo on the bottom of the label or Johnsons "One Step" which is chemically identical to "Future".


Check it out. If that information is no longer true, let us know so Swanny can update his article.

So long folks!

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Posted by Yura K on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 3:14 AM
Thanks! Will do, and will let you know.
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Posted by Yura K on Monday, May 29, 2006 5:36 AM
Sorry I took so long to respond, it took me a while to scout around. I found both the Mr. Muscle and the "One Step", however I'm not sure if either of them is the right thing. Mr Muscle does say FUTURE on it, but it also says that it includes ammonia to dissolve the previous layer of polish. I thought ammonia is used to remove Future? Confused [%-)]

Johnson's "One Step" seems to be closer to the mark. However, after using it on some spare model parts, the results I get are not what I would expect - the coat is not nearly as glossy as Humbrol clear gloss coat, for example, it's a lot flatter. Is it still the right thing?
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Posted by tho9900 on Monday, May 29, 2006 11:20 AM

it should be... I know my friends in Australia said their Pledge One Go (I believe it is called) coated the parts but had an ammonia smell and did not perform as well as future.  Does the One Step have a sort of floral scent to it?  Or non chemical at least?

To get the shiny gloss coat I usually have to make 3 or 4 passes with the airbrush in separate coats allowed to dry for an hour or so in between... once you get it gloss though it looks like glass!

 

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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Posted by Bgrigg on Monday, May 29, 2006 11:34 AM
I would stay away from the ammonia based version. Future has no ammonia in it at all, and you're right ammonia is used to remove Future coats.

Future does require airbrushing subsequent layers to achieve a high gloss look, so give it another try with the One Step.

So long folks!

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Posted by Yura K on Tuesday, May 30, 2006 3:51 AM
Thanks for the responses!

Well, I think then that Mr. Muscle is definitely out, maybe Swanny should know about this.

As for the One Step, I'll give it another few tries and see what happens. And it does have a far less chemical smell than Mr Muscle. I hope it works... Smile [:)]
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Posted by tho9900 on Tuesday, May 30, 2006 7:33 AM
you could PM or email Swanny - he is always happy to get updates for his pages... try the One Step
first and that way you could let him know one is in, the other is out.. or at least your experiences with each..
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Posted by Yura K on Monday, June 5, 2006 6:36 AM
Again, sorry for the delay in responding.

Well, Johnson's One Step seems to do the trick, it gets more and more glossy as I apply subsequent layers. It is very thin, so it can easily be airbrushed. The other Mr. Muscle is definitely out.

Thanks for all the advice, I really appreciate it! Bow [bow]
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