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Aztek airbrush problem - unexplainable bubbles in the paint cup

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  • Member since
    November 2005
Aztek airbrush problem - unexplainable bubbles in the paint cup
Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 11:16 PM

I have a problem with my Testors Aztek A470M double action metal airbrush. It is still under warranty (about six months old), however I thought that if it is only a minor problem it might be easier for me to fix it myself rather than return it to the US for repair (I am in Australia). I have had great use out of the airbrush over the past months, however there now seems to be a problem (the problem started a few weeks ago and has got progressively worse to the point that I can longer use the airbrush). I have been using acrylic paints only (mostly Tamiya brand). The problem is that I am not getting paint flow through the nozzle, rather I get lots of bubbles in the paint cup. I am a fairly experienced modeller, so I have tried a number of the usual things to remedy the situation, with no success. Normally this problem (of back flushing into the paint cup) would indicate a blocked nozzle, but this is definitely not the case. The airbrush has been thoroughly cleaned and internally inspected by me. I have tried using a number of different nozzles (all clean) and none of them have fixed the problem. Using a high flow or low flow nozzle does not seem to make any difference. I have even bought a brand new nozzle to make sure, but had no more success. I can confirm that compressed air passes through the nozzle without problem (when there is no paint cup and the opening is closed off), indicating that there is clear air passage all the way from the compressor to the nozzle tip. I have thinned the paint correctly so the problem is not caused by thickened paint (even water and pure thinners will not go through). I have tested to make sure that water can pass through the airbrush from the paint cup out through the front of the airbrush (where the nozzle would screw in) - there appears to be no blockage there. I have tried a range of pressure settings to ensure that the problem is not related to a lack of air pressure. The problem seems to be that while air can pass through the system, the paint is not being sucked down from the cup (this is true for all cups and jars). I have ensured that the breather holes in the cups are free (and I have even tried the cups with no lid to make sure). Logically, the air is going to follow the path of least resistance, which in my case is up through the paint cup rather than out through the nozzle. I have tried different nozzle depths by loosening or tightening the nozzle with no success. During my fault finding expedition I found that if I pressurise the cup (I used my mouth to gently blow water through the system from the paint cup) while simultaneously releasing air by pressing the trigger, the water did come out of the nozzle, again proving that there is a clear passage between the paint cup and the nozzle tip. I have tried submersing the airbrush underwater to check for air leaks, and there is a very minor air bleed that comes out of the black plastic head at the seam. Any advice would be appreciated.

  • Member since
    October 2005
  • From: Maryland
Posted by usmc1371 on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 7:24 AM

Hi,

I've had sort of the same problem.  I think it happens when paint accumulates within the 'guts' of the airbrush.  Either the needle won't move correctly or airflow becomes restricted by paint.  I actually took my airbrush apart (even though you aren't supposed to) and did a complete cleaning throughout.  It's really not that difficult.  I was amazed to see how much paint there was in the airbrush.  I learned that sometimes paint will seep back into the 'guts' of the airbrush and foul everything up.  I would suggest getting some of Testors Dried Acrylic Paint cleaner and puts some drops of this in the slot where the trigger is.  It won't hurt the airbrush.  Let it soak for a minute and then use a pipecleaner in the slot to clean up any loose paint.  After this, run the airbrush under hot water and shake it vigoursly to get any loose paint and water out of it.

Here's a webpage showing the internals of the A470 if you're adventerous enough to take it apart: http://www.master194.com/encyclo/aztec/index.htm .

Let me know if this helps,

Jesse

  • Member since
    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 15, 2006 5:29 PM
Thanks for your reply, but unfortunately I do not think it is a question of paint accumulation. I have taken the airbrush apart and cleaned it (it looks brand new - inside and out). I know what you are saying about the needle sometimes getting restricted, because I have had that before.  My needle defininately moves backwards and forwards very smoothly with the trigger. With a nozzle attached I can visually confirm the nozzle needle moving in and out with the movements of the trigger. As far as the possibility of an air blockage, I don't think that is the problem. I say this because air passes through the nozzle without problem (with no paint cup attached) indicating a clear path from the compressor to the nozzle. With a paint cup attached, the backflushing of the paint cup indicates a clear path from the compressor to the cup. So you can see why I am at a loss????
  • Member since
    November 2019
Posted by Jwm2177 on Friday, November 29, 2019 1:28 PM

I know you posted this a long while ago, but I have now come upon the same mysterious issue. Did you ever figure out what was causing the problem?

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