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Techniques for masking cockpits???
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 21, 2003 2:39 AM
Any suggestions or best ways to mask an airplane cockpit for painting the frame? I've always just painted with a steady hand or used cheap tape. I want to be more professional :)
Thanks in advance!
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Posted by maddafinga on Thursday, August 21, 2003 8:29 AM
There's nothing wrong with cheap tape man. If it's a tough one, you can cut small pieces of tape, and work them into place around the edges, then use larger pieces to fill the empty space. Some people use liquid masks, some use a combo of liquid masks and tape. I have used bare metal foil a couple of times, but once, it left a residue that I couldn't get off and ruined the canopy. I kinda prefer the cheap tape method, just make sure you burnish it down well.

madda
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 21, 2003 9:15 AM
YEA I GOT ONE DONT USE LIQUID MASK IT SUX BUT THAT IS WHAT U GET FOR THE EASY WAY OUT GOOD LUCK THOUGH.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 22, 2003 1:38 AM
I was wondering about the liquid masks. I've never used it but i've read in posts that some "experts" use it. I wonder if anyone else has any comments on that. I guess i could find some good "hobby tape" and toil with the cutting and burnishing :)
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 22, 2003 11:11 AM
I always us Micro Mask on my canopies to mast the cockpit. Here is the method I've always used with perfect results:

After acheiving the best possible kit canopy fit to the fuselage, I give the canopy three heavy coats of Micro Mask, then attach it to the fuselage using a thin bead of Micro Mask as the "glue". When dry, touch up any missed areas with more Micro Mask. I then proceed to paint, glosscoat, decal, and overcoat the model without having to worry about any paint overspray getting into the cockpit. After everything is dry, the canopy will pop off with minimum force and any touch up is easy. The Micro Mask is easily removed from the canopy with the aid transparent tape.
The canopy is now ready to polish, paint, and install. In my case, I vacuum form my own canopies using the kit canopies as the masters before the above proceedure, and save the originals, "just in case". Wink [;)]

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 22, 2003 1:25 PM
i used tape to mask my first canopy...jacked it up good. So I tried the liquid mask as i figured using it would be really similar to the stuff we used to use to mask negatives (back the day)...it was. Paint it on thick, dries to a thick rubbery substance, cut through it with a sharp xacto then paint away. It worked like a charm. I'm still figuring it out of course, but i'd totally recommend it.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 23, 2003 1:45 AM
thanks Merideth and Schmeter pit for the input. I might give the liquid mask a try sometime. Is it better to coat the whole canopy with the mask and cut the panel lines or to Not put the liquid mask on the panel lines?
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 23, 2003 10:40 PM
where can one purchase this liquid mask, and what is it called?
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Posted by MonsterZero on Monday, August 25, 2003 9:42 PM
I am assuming the author of the thread just wants to mask the cockpit opening and is airbrushing before the transparent canopy is installed (that should be the final step in most kits).

In one of the Kalmbach books the authors simply stuffs the cockpit hole with some paper tissue.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 2:23 PM
CZRU,

People will mask both ways. I personally coat just the areas that need masked, leaving the cockpit struts and supports unmasked. It's easier for me, and leaves less chances of stray blade nicks when removing the strut masking. It may require a bit of touch-up later, but it's the price I'm willing to pay.

demono69
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 4:28 PM
CZRU i coat the whole thing with liquid mask...once dry, the whole thing will peel off together, or at least in big chunks, like a great glob of dried rubber cement. Just make sure you put it on thick.

stangfanatic the stuff i have is called "liquid masking film" by Bob Dively Model Aircraft...scroll half way down this page and you'll see a little description
http://www.bobdivelymodels.com/4.htm
i just got it at my hobby shop
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 5:34 PM
If you're planning to stick to using a brush, try scoring a light line around the frame where you want the paint edge to be. This will draw the paint to the line and hold it there so it doesn't go onto the glass portion. Still takes a steady hand, but it gives fairly nice straight lines (assuming you scored the lines nice and straight to begin with!!)

Murray
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 5:49 PM
Have you ever noticed that it's easier to mask off the frames than it is to mask off the windows? Well here's a method that I learned exactly 21 weeks ago...

-First paint spray the entire outside of the canopy in the canopy frame color.
-Then, spray the entire inside of the canopy in the inside canopy frame color.
-Now comes the masking. Just cut some thin strips of masking tape and lay them directly along the canopy frames. Sometimes it's easier to cut the piece a little bigger than the frame, and then just trim it to the edge.
-Now, just spray some gloss 'clear' onto both the inside and outside of the canopy . You might need to give it a few coats, but this will restore the 'clear' window sections. I've found that the Humbrol gloss clear works best!!
- remove the masks that were protecting the frames and you should be all done! One nice canopy ready to be installed!!

Murray

PS. Don't think too hard about it...
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Posted by MikeV on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 6:05 PM
Huh?

Are you saying that clear paint will make the colored paint you sprayed on the inside of the canopy disappear?

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 11:35 PM
I guess that's what I'm saying...



Murray
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Posted by MikeV on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 12:47 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Murray Kish

I guess that's what I'm saying...


How could spraying clear paint over an opaque color make the opaque color disappear?

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 12:05 PM
Got ya!

Hook, line, and sinker!!

Just kidding. Of course clear paint cannot make opaque color disappear! Take it as a late April fools joke... (note that i mentioned 21 weeks ago... which happens to be April fools!!)

Oh well, my sense of humour is rather warped. Sorry if I've offended....

Murray :)
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Posted by maddafinga on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 12:37 PM
Hah, and here I thought that you'd just lost your mind. I felt like it had to be some kinda troll. Hope nobody tried it without thinking about it first :)

madda
Madda Trifles make perfection, but perfection is no trifle. -- Leonardo Da Vinci Tact is for those who lack the wit for sarcasm.--maddafinga
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Posted by MikeV on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 1:00 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Murray Kish

Got ya!

Hook, line, and sinker!!

Just kidding. Of course clear paint cannot make opaque color disappear! Take it as a late April fools joke... (note that i mentioned 21 weeks ago... which happens to be April fools!!)

Oh well, my sense of humour is rather warped. Sorry if I've offended....


I'm glad this was a joke because I was beginning to wonder if you had been sniffing a bit too much glue lately. Big Smile [:D]Wink [;)]

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 28, 2003 10:35 AM
Hey Murray -

Do you know why they don't send donkeys to school?

Nobody likes a wise ass! Big Smile [:D]

Pete
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 28, 2003 11:48 AM
Sorry again guys (especially Mike, who had the guts to challenge me!),

I'm going into 'withdrawal'. Still haven't got my bench setup from my big house move and it's nowhere in sight. I think it might be the 'lack' of fumes, rather than too many??

Murray



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