Need technique advice from Badger Anthem owner's

wing_nut wrote:

WOW Ryan, that is an impressive bunch of AB's.   OK AB experts which would YOU choose?  I am most familiar with the HP-C and the 100SG.  I had been thinking of the 100LG, just for the larger cup.

The Badger 100LG would be my choice personally as it sprays great and you will never find better customer service from anyone!

The HP-C is an excellent airbrush also but is more money and much more for parts when you need them. 

Can you tell I prefer Badgers?

WOW Ryan, that is an impressive bunch of AB's.

OK AB experts which would YOU choose?  I am most familiar with the HP-C and the 100SG.  I had been thinking of the 100LG, just for the larger cup. 

archangel571 wrote:

oh yea marc, i tried to use outline then fill method on lighter color mottle and it messes up since each overpass darkens the mottle on the outer edge.  i'd say next time i'd try to fill in the middle and feather it outwards.   n marc, this is direct to you only.  mike, i am not even trying to compete here.  like you had said before, i shouldn't bother.  i actually re-evaluated my needs for model airbrushing n other artworks after trying out all these airbrushes, n tried to consolidate everything, which is why half of them are being dropped.  Probably gonna end up with a custom micron B later on in life but it won't be for models.

Wow! That is a lot of Japanese airbrushes there!  

You spent a fortune on that collection.

At least the Iwatas are real popular and you should get top dollar for them.

oh yea marc, i tried to use outline then fill method on lighter color mottle and it messes up since each overpass darkens the mottle on the outer edge.  i'd say next time i'd try to fill in the middle and feather it outwards. 

 n marc, this is direct to you only.  mike, i am not even trying to compete here.  like you had said before, i shouldn't bother.  i actually re-evaluated my needs for model airbrushing n other artworks after trying out all these airbrushes, n tried to consolidate everything, which is why half of them are being dropped.  Probably gonna end up with a custom micron B later on in life but it won't be for models.

MikeV wrote:

Your collection is weak.

that's cuz u saw the old pic.  ya didn't see the new one after the 100LG and 155 are gone.   weakest link... 

archangel571 wrote:

wing_nut wrote: And less than 10 psi on my Anthem... well lets just say it was not pretty.  I tried several different pressures and added a drop or 2 of thinner to the mix before each pressure change.  And I still can't get what I envisioned, but I am not unhappy with the way it looks in the end.  I think I need to bump up to the next level AB. for your 1/72 butcherbirds, i'd agree that it's time to get a gravity-feed detail AB and dial the pressure down. [wanna take a look at my stash of ABs that's going on ebay soon?  u don't even gotta pay for shipping providing i attend the dec njipms meeting.  =P]

Your collection is weak.

wing_nut wrote:

And less than 10 psi on my Anthem... well lets just say it was not pretty.  I tried several different pressures and added a drop or 2 of thinner to the mix before each pressure change.  And I still can't get what I envisioned, but I am not unhappy with the way it looks in the end.  I think I need to bump up to the next level AB.

for your 1/72 butcherbirds, i'd agree that it's time to get a gravity-feed detail AB and dial the pressure down.

[wanna take a look at my stash of ABs that's going on ebay soon?  u don't even gotta pay for shipping providing i attend the dec njipms meeting.  =P]

lone wrote:

i use a more than normal thinning ratio and a lower pressure as well,,,get in close and lock your elbow to make your hand shake in and out(stabs) keep moving,,it's kinda like trying to AB a thin arrow straight line after you've had a pot of coffee

Now that's a tough technique to master  LOL.  I got a little too shaky and the paint was sloshing out of the cup.   Next time I try that I will have 10 double espressos 1st.

And less than 10 psi on my Anthem... well lets just say it was not pretty.  I tried several different pressures and added a drop or 2 of thinner to the mix before each pressure change.  And I still can't get what I envisioned, but I am not unhappy with the way it looks in the end.  I think I need to bump up to the next level AB.

I would use a 3x5 index card and cut small holes in it and hold it off the surface to get your mottle.

I have a 155 and have never been able to get mottle in 72nd scale free hand.  This could be due to my limited abilities, but I have tried (belive me) and failed.

And if my regulator gauge is accurate you will get nothing at 8-10 psi with a anthem as it is a siphon feed - even using the color cup.   If you can I'd love to hear about it.

Good luck

bipolar_bill wrote:

Mottling is one of the hardest things to master, but not impossible. Practice it all you can. I use very low pressure (6 to 8 psi) and very, very thin paint. I don't know the ratio, just try to get it very thin, almost like ink. Get in real close to the surface, hold down on the trigger so air is coming out constanly and roll the trigger forward and backward quickly as you make small fast motions with your hand. Too slow and it will run. Too fast and it will look like splatter. Go slowly and paint small areas at a time. Don't think about the whole job and it will all come together in the end. Use some small dots and oblong strokes to blend the whole job together. I always practice on a scrap model just to get warmed up.

6 to 8 psi with an Anthem?

The anthem is very tough to do 1/72 mottles with.When I try with my anthem i usually thin it very very heavily, until its almost tinted thinner, and use extremely low pressure.

My current soultion is to use my Iwata HP-BCS.

Thought I'd offer some advice anyway, even though I'm clealry not a better modeler.

Marc, I dont know the ratio but when I mix my paint to thinner It will roll off a tooth pick almost like water, I use MM enamels also. Hopes this helps.

Thad

Mottling is one of the hardest things to master, but not impossible. Practice it all you can. I use very low pressure (6 to 8 psi) and very, very thin paint. I don't know the ratio, just try to get it very thin, almost like ink. Get in real close to the surface, hold down on the trigger so air is coming out constanly and roll the trigger forward and backward quickly as you make small fast motions with your hand. Too slow and it will run. Too fast and it will look like splatter. Go slowly and paint small areas at a time. Don't think about the whole job and it will all come together in the end. Use some small dots and oblong strokes to blend the whole job together. I always practice on a scrap model just to get warmed up.