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scared of buying an air brush
Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 12:34 AM
i'm thinking of buying an air brush but i have no idea of how to use one properly or how to show whethering with it. I would appreciate it if some one could give me some links or just tell how to use one properly. thanks.    
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Posted by chopperfan on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 8:49 AM

Try this site or this one and possibly this one.

There are also a few members on the forums that are pretty salty when it comes to airbrushes and airbrushing.  MusicCity, although I haven't seen him here in awhile and MikeV to name a couple.  Any questions and either one can help.

I hope this will help and have fun with your new airbrush.

Randie [C):-)]Agape Models Without them? The men on the ground would have to work a lot harder. You can help. Please keep 'em flying! http://www.airtanker.com/
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Posted by Triarius on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 1:07 PM
Sign - Ditto [#ditto]

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Posted by chopperfan on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 1:43 PM

Thanks for the vote of confidence, Ross. Approve [^]

By the way.  What are you doing to the "A-61" Blackwidow?  I started one years ago adapting the nacelles and props from a C-130!!  I may have to try and dig that one out and do some brain storming.

Randie [C):-)]Agape Models Without them? The men on the ground would have to work a lot harder. You can help. Please keep 'em flying! http://www.airtanker.com/
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Posted by Triarius on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 2:08 PM

You're welcome! 

The "A-61" basically a "what if?"—What if the P-61 had not been used for weather research, but had been mothballed and brought back as a ground attack-observation aircraft during the Viet Nam War?

Adding wingtip tanks, upgrading it to the C model, "adding" strengthened wings and nacelles to allow for more hard points and fuel, upgrading the radar and moving it out of the nose to make room for either a Vulcan or four to six .50 caliber machine guns.

It would have been one heck of a ground attack ship: four 20 mm cannon and from six to eight .50 guns firing forward, four guns in a turret to maintain suppressive fire as the ship completes an attack, turning and climbing away, plus various bombs, rockets, etc. Sort of an early version of the A-10.

This sort of thing was inspired by a friend who modified a Piasecki Air Jeep kit with a recoilless rifle and machine guns for use "in country." 

I'm also doing a side-by-side build of a "real" model of the P-61.

Ross Martinek A little strangeness, now and then, is a good thing… Wink

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Posted by chopperfan on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 2:46 PM
Sounds great!!  I have always liked the P-61.  I am also going to try my hand at an F-15 Reporter and/or the P-61E.  I'm gonna have to invest in a couple more R-M P-61s though.  I've only got three at the present time and have plans for two and the third is the one I started chopping as mentioned above.
Randie [C):-)]Agape Models Without them? The men on the ground would have to work a lot harder. You can help. Please keep 'em flying! http://www.airtanker.com/
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Posted by MikeV on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 4:52 PM
 chopperfan wrote:

Try this site or this one and possibly this one.

There are also a few members on the forums that are pretty salty when it comes to airbrushes and airbrushing.  MusicCity, although I haven't seen him here in awhile and MikeV to name a couple.  Any questions and either one can help.

I hope this will help and have fun with your new airbrush.

I am salty? I thought "salty" meant that you were sassy? Laugh [(-D]

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by chopperfan on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 6:43 PM
 MikeV wrote:

I am salty? I thought "salty" meant that you were sassy? Laugh [(-D]

I always thought it meant well versed?!??!??? Big Smile [:D] Now I'm confused!! Confused [%-)]

Randie [C):-)]Agape Models Without them? The men on the ground would have to work a lot harder. You can help. Please keep 'em flying! http://www.airtanker.com/
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Posted by Ratbert_CP on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 6:49 PM
 chopperfan wrote:
 MikeV wrote:

I am salty? I thought "salty" meant that you were sassy? Laugh [(-D]

I always thought it meant well versed?!??!??? Big Smile [:D] Now I'm confused!! Confused [%-)]

 

I've always used it to mean old, crusty and wise.  Not always the best company or best mannered, but a huge bucket-load of useful information gleaned through years or decades of hard work and dedication.

Often used with the terms "old coot" or "curmudgeon"... Smile [:)]

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Posted by Triarius on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 9:03 PM
 chopperfan wrote:
 MikeV wrote:

I am salty? I thought "salty" meant that you were sassy? Laugh [(-D]

I always thought it meant well versed?!??!??? Big Smile [:D] Now I'm confused!! Confused [%-)]

One of those useful terms that has multiple meanings. It can mean:

  1. lustful, lascivious
  2. sharp tasting, and by association, sharp minded or sharp tongued
  3. earthy, sometimes "down to earth"
  4. savory, usually of food, but also of character by association
  5. a scattered elite—"the salt of the earth"
  6. an experienced sailor

I think sharp minded, savory of character, and the salt of the earth might apply to Mike. But I think the term you wanted to use was:

Savvy: derived from savant, an extremely knowledgeable person. 

Ross Martinek A little strangeness, now and then, is a good thing… Wink

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Posted by chopperfan on Thursday, December 28, 2006 8:27 AM
 Triarius wrote:

I think sharp minded, savory of character, and the salt of the earth might apply to Mike.

Sign - Ditto [#ditto] That's what I said. Confused [%-)] Sorta.

Randie [C):-)]Agape Models Without them? The men on the ground would have to work a lot harder. You can help. Please keep 'em flying! http://www.airtanker.com/
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Posted by MikeV on Thursday, December 28, 2006 8:05 PM
Laugh [(-D]Laugh [(-D]Laugh [(-D]Laugh [(-D]Laugh [(-D]

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by Shellback on Thursday, December 28, 2006 8:11 PM
 MikeV wrote:
 chopperfan wrote:

Try this site or this one and possibly this one.

There are also a few members on the forums that are pretty salty when it comes to airbrushes and airbrushing.  MusicCity, although I haven't seen him here in awhile and MikeV to name a couple.  Any questions and either one can help.

I hope this will help and have fun with your new airbrush.

I am salty? I thought "salty" meant that you were sassy? Laugh [(-D]

Did some one say "SALTY" !? Pirate [oX)]  ARRGHHH Mate !!

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Posted by jinithith2 on Thursday, December 28, 2006 8:24 PM
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Posted by Triarius on Thursday, December 28, 2006 9:57 PM

 jinithith2 wrote:
we are getting pretty Sign - Off Topic!! [#offtopic]...

"We are not merely stranger than you imagine…

…we are stranger than we can imagine! 

 

We now return you to your regularly scheduled reality…Alien [alien] Alien [alien]Alien [alien]Alien [alien]Alien [alien]

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Posted by buff on Sunday, December 31, 2006 8:08 PM

 floxy wrote:
i'm thinking of buying an air brush but i have no idea of how to use one properly or how to show whethering with it. I would appreciate it if some one could give me some links or just tell how to use one properly. thanks.    

Anytime you look to buy a product that you know nothing about, it's pretty intimidating, but really that's the only thing you have to worry about.  There isn't a huge number of reputable airbrush makers out there.  You're looking at Badger, Iwata, Aztec and Passche.  There are others, though. I use a Tamiya, for example. I guarantee that somebody on these boards has personal experience with any brand you may want to check out.  For starters, MikeV knows all there is to know about Badger.  I don't know what kind of budget you have, but if you're worried about breaking the bank on an airbrush that you don't like, don't worry.  You can get a good airbrush, one that will allow you to learn to do lots of different things, for less than $100 US.

As far as not wanting to buy an a/b because you don't know how to use one, I don't imagine very many people here knew how to use one before they bought their first one either.  Buy one, read the tutorials, and practice, practice, practice.  Just be patient.  I don't know of anybody who has taken an a/b out of the box, and been a "best of show" quality airbrusher right away.

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Posted by CANDYFLIP on Thursday, January 4, 2007 4:45 PM

My advice is don't be, it will take alot of time and trouble to master, but if you keep at it you will get results.i think there's five different types airbrushes, (single-action,external mix), (single-action,internal), (fixed double-action), (independent double-action), (double-action turbo). i've had my two olympos single-action,internal and independent double-action for years now, but i started with a badger single-action, external mix and learned myself. if your just starting out get a single-action,ex mix or single-action,internal mix, and practice on some plastic card or paper, so you get use to holding it and feeling comfortable with it in your hand. weathering with an airbrush don't take to long to get use to, it depends on what your doing. tanks, figures, buildings, aircraft. but you could just use artists chalk pastels for weathering, i'll stop there cos i'm going on a bit

 

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Posted by ruddratt on Thursday, January 4, 2007 5:07 PM
I was as well, but now I wonder how I ever modeled without them.

Mike

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Posted by Torio on Friday, January 5, 2007 8:41 PM

 

Floxy, there can be an alternative : some art shops give airbrush lessons; depending on the place you live, there may be one in the surroundings. Although it will be more art oriented, basics are good for everyone and you'll have opportunity to try before you buy. Apart of this, go see the sites the other chaps quoted as they are full of information. If all this fails, you can try by yourself, as an airbrush is much less dangerous than a gun (don't aim at yourself, though). When I get a new airbrush, I try first with... air alone, to get the feel of this new engine, then I put plain water, then I try with ink. After that, there is more possibilities that I can speak of here, but the topic is : feel it in your hand, see how it behaves, how low you can set the pressure, and how high, what will be the thickness of the medium you will spray,etc... in one word : practice.

Boss, when you spoke of only four brands of airbrushes, I think you forgot Aerograph/De Vilbiss, Harder & Steenbeck, Hansa, Richpen, Holbein, Efbe, and some more. Okay, there is a number of European brands in this list but they are worth trying.

Thank you all for coming José

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