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Painting question
Posted by droogie2799 on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 11:37 PM

I currently have a 1/35 sherman tank lined up and once the building is completed I have some quesitons about paiting and weathering.

If I use acrylic paint for the majority of the model, will washing with an oil paint (Windsor for example) mixed with turpenoid be ok in light doses?  Will that damage the base coat?

Do you guys spray a clear coat over your washed?

Do you clear coat at all?

Basically, my technique in the past has been base coat, wash, drybrush.  

 

  • Member since
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  • From: Southeast Louisiana
Posted by Wulf on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 7:22 AM

I'll try to help with what I can......

1. I don't know......I have never used a oil wash over acrylic. If there is a concern, you could always use an acrylic or watercolor wash instead. However, I know the oil wash tends to look better.

2. yes

3. yes

4. That's pretty much my order as well. Especially if you're drybrushing silver, it's good to do it very last so the clearcoat won't dull it down. Hope this helped..

Andy 

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  • From: Boyertown, PA, USA
Posted by Dubau on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 8:31 AM

Take a look at these How Too's. Something in them might help.

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Bud 

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  • From: Peoples Socialist Democratic Republic of Illinois
Posted by Triarius on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 11:05 AM
  1. Not at all. However, if you use a clear cover coat, it will be easier to remove the excess.
  2. Yes, I seal washes with a clear coat.
  3. Yes, but it can be overdone.
  4. Sounds like an excellent technique.

Ross Martinek A little strangeness, now and then, is a good thing… Wink

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Posted by droogie2799 on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 4:31 PM

When you say use a clear cover coat, you mean before the wash, spray the base color with a clear coat?  I just purchased two varieties of clear coat just so I wouldn't have to go to the shop again.  I got Tamiya x-22 (clear high gloss) and I got MM clear gloss which looks white in the bottle.  I am hopeing that the MM doesn't change the color of the base.

 

So, to sum it up, I paint the base, clear coat, wash, clear coat, dry brush...

or

Should I wash, dry brush than clear coat to seal in the dry brush?

 

Would the clear coat (gloss) negate the effects of weathering?  It seems like the gloss will make the tank look shiny 

  • Member since
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  • From: Peoples Socialist Democratic Republic of Illinois
Posted by Triarius on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 5:06 PM

You don't have to use a clear coat, and on a tank you might not want to do so. If you use a "sludge wash" technique, the clear coat is recommended. It depends on the wash technique and your intended results. Your wash will settle into the rough surface of the flat paint, changing its color subtlely. (Or not so subtlely if you use a heavy wash.) You may want that effect, or not. You can also clear coat some portions (simulating fresh or unweathered paint) but not others.

The point is that once the oil wash is applied to a flat paint surface, it will be practically impossible to remove all of it if you don't like what you've done.

The order you use different weathering techniques depends on the effects you want to achieve. Where I want a surface to look worn and dirty, I apply washes directly to the flat paint. Where I want the wash to collect around detail only, I usually apply the wash over a clear gloss.

I prefer to seal my weathering efforts with a clear coat. The level of gloss depends on the model. For a tank, I'd use a clear flat.

Ross Martinek A little strangeness, now and then, is a good thing… Wink

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