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Cleaning an Iwata HP-BP and Thinning Tamiya Paints

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  • From: Seattle, WA
Posted by RonUSMC on Friday, January 19, 2007 12:06 PM

I use the Testor's Thinner or the Tamiya Thinner. I think to about 50/50. I dont use retarder, but now that I am up in Seattle I dont need it. When I was in Los Angeles I needed it badly.

 I got this squeeze bottle of Testor's Thinner and I just keep refilling that. After I pour a bit of paint into the cup I squeeze a bit of thinner and then mix it with a Tamiya Paint mixer tool. Then wallahaahhh.

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Posted by Triarius on Monday, January 15, 2007 10:32 PM

Do not use Windex as a retarder! It isn't one, and the ammonia in it will mess up your paint.

Tamiya is best thinned with either 90 percent isopropyl or their proprietary thinner. Some Tamiya colors are not compatible with denatured alcohol, in my experience. 

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Posted by Phil_H on Monday, January 15, 2007 6:31 PM
 kerrydeare wrote:
 Phil_H wrote:

... My personal preference is to use denatured alcohol to thin Tamiya acrylics, plus a drop of acrylic retarder, which helps to prevent "tip dry".  

Is a drop or two of Windex a reasonable substitute for the retarder?

I've seen Windex suggested as an alternate thinner but not a retarder. "Proper" acrylic retarders are readily available at art supply stores and a 250ml bottle will last you for years.

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  • From: Boyertown, PA, USA
Posted by Dubau on Monday, January 15, 2007 1:29 PM

For acrylics use Windex and them Distalled Water to clean it.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 15, 2007 11:56 AM
 Phil_H wrote:

... My personal preference is to use denatured alcohol to thin Tamiya acrylics, plus a drop of acrylic retarder, which helps to prevent "tip dry".  

Is a drop or two of Windex a reasonable substitute for the retarder?

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  • From: Sydney, Australia
Posted by Phil_H on Monday, January 15, 2007 2:38 AM

If painting exclusively with Tamiya acrylics, water will suffice for the initial rinse-out of any leftovers in the paint cup, but I would follow that by spraying denatured alcohol or Windex through the brush until no trace of paint comes through. (If using Windex, follow with distilled water to prevent the ammonia in the Windex from attacking the metal in the airbrush and/or contaminating the next colour you put through the airbrush)  If you're just switching colours, this should be sufficient.

When finished painting for the day, repeat the above and then unscrew the tip and swab out the tip with a cloth dampened with alcohol. Withdraw the needle and wipe down with a cloth dampened with alcohol. Be very careful not to damage the tip of the needle. Reassemble and you are good to go.

Regarding thinning Tamiya acrylics, it has been said that a small amount of water works, though I've never tried it. Personally, I wouldn't use water, as I believe too much water tends to (a)alter the surface tension of the paint and (b) reduces the effectiveness of the "binder" in the paint, resulting in poor adhesion.

My personal preference is to use denatured alcohol to thin Tamiya acrylics, plus a drop of acrylic retarder, which helps to prevent "tip dry".  

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Cleaning an Iwata HP-BP and Thinning Tamiya Paints
Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 15, 2007 12:19 AM

Hello all,

I was lucky enough to get an Iwata HP – BP airbrush for Christmas, and am about to try it out for the first time. I have not used a ‘real’ airbrush before and was wondering about cleaning it. I plan to exclusively use Tamiya acrylic paints in the brush.

My main question is this – will water suffice as a cleaning medium? If so, is their a difference between tap and distilled water?

Also, can Tamiya paints be thinned with a little water before putting them through the brush?

Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks!

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