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Acrylic Striping Question

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  • From: Peoples Socialist Democratic Republic of Illinois
Posted by Triarius on Saturday, March 10, 2007 9:10 AM

Sure, it'll work on some acrylics, not as well as others. But there are three problems:

  1. It's flammable and easily ignited.
  2. The vapors are bad for you. (You can get drunk, and if it's methylated, much worse!)
  3. Skin contact is bad for you, especially if it is methylated, as methyl alcohol (the stuff that makes you blind and kills kidneys) can be absorbed through the skin.
For a quick cleanup of a small part, I wouldn't hesitate. Sitting over a small pan of it, scrubbing a model or large assembly is not what I consider a good idea.

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Posted by stretchie on Friday, March 9, 2007 10:13 PM
Is there a reason why no one uses denatured alcohol??? I had to strip a hull and it was all I had. I don't see any adverse effects. I just dipped the old toothbrush in the alcohol and scrubbed a bit then ran it under water. Kept doing that until the hull was (relatively) clean.
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Posted by wreklund on Wednesday, March 7, 2007 10:36 PM

I second the brake fluid method. I have just experienced a major "masking castastrohe" that require a completed redo. A cake-pan full of brake fluid for about 24-48 hours and everything just fell off, with no damage what-so-ever to the plastic or any of the adhesives. A good warm water rinse, followed by a good blow-job, and we were ready for a new coat of primer and another shot.

Works like a charm!!!!!

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Posted by HM2 Somers on Wednesday, March 7, 2007 9:28 AM

I found a bottle of LESTOIL in my grocery store worked great! I let the figure soak for about 30 minutes and then brushed of the paint with an old toothbrush. It came off very easily and did not affect the glued limbs at all. LESTOIL is made by the Clorox Company and is advertized as a household grease and stain remover. It is some what thick and brown in color. I'm even thinking you could use it to wash off parts before painting to de-grease you model.

Big Smile [:D]

Pam

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Posted by Shogun on Wednesday, February 28, 2007 12:37 PM

Ross,

Great point!  I used a cotton swab and was very careful not to overdue it.  Also I used the the special Model Master Metalizer thinner witch I think is a little less aggressive.  I would not soak any parts in any kind of Lacquer based thinner.

Travis

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Posted by Triarius on Wednesday, February 28, 2007 11:46 AM
Be careful—"lacquer thinner" is a blend of solvents, and the composition of  the blend varies significantly between manufacturers. Some of the solvents will also attack styrene very aggressively.

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Posted by Shogun on Wednesday, February 28, 2007 8:10 AM

I just had a situation when I need to strip some Model Master Metalizer.  MM Metalizer is Laquer based so I used some laquer thinner.  All I had to do was dip the part in the thinner for a few seconds and then wip the paint off with a cotton swab.  Keep in mind the paint was only about 12 hours old.  I am not sure if that will work as good with an older paint job.  I hope this helps.

 Travis

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Posted by Triarius on Tuesday, February 27, 2007 10:37 PM

 jtilley wrote:
I think Windex contains ammonia, which is a mild solvent for many plastics.  In most cases the effect probably is so slight that it wouldn't matter, but I'd be a little nervous about using Windex on clear plastic.  (I used to work in a museum, where we had an ironclad rule:  never use Windex to clean a plexiglas case.  It may take months of daily applications, but eventually the stuff will start looking grey and blurry.)

Yes, it contains ammonia. However, ammonia is not a "solvent" for plastic. What it is, is a highly aggessive chemical that will attack almost anything. And if it will attack acrylic paint, it will also attack acrylic plastic, albeit much more slowly. Your experience with plexiglass museum cases is indicative—but there are other factors at work, too. Styrene is not an acrylic, neither is butyrate. However, see below!

For modeling applications, any damage to clear parts (you would probably have to soak them) can be repaired the same way minor scratches are. (Polish and dip in Future.)

However, remember what I said about "attack almost anything"? Long exposure to higher concentrations of ammonia will embrittle styrene (and other polymers), and will alter the surface on a microscopic level. Fine sanding is recommended in such cases. This will remove the altered surface plastic. 

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Posted by jtilley on Tuesday, February 27, 2007 9:55 PM

My favorite paint stripper for years has been automotive brake fluid.  Pour enough of it in an appropriate container (the cheap aluminum baking pans sold in groceries are great for the purpose) to cover the object you're stripping, and let it soak for an hour or so.  Then hold the object under running water, and watch most of the paint fall off.  Tough spots may need some help from an old toothbrush.  But so far I haven't run across a part, or a type of paint, that brake fluid couldn't handle.

I think Windex contains ammonia, which is a mild solvent for many plastics.  In most cases the effect probably is so slight that it wouldn't matter, but I'd be a little nervous about using Windex on clear plastic.  (I used to work in a museum, where we had an ironclad rule:  never use Windex to clean a plexiglas case.  It may take months of daily applications, but eventually the stuff will start looking grey and blurry.)

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Posted by Ranger_Chris61 on Tuesday, February 27, 2007 9:34 PM
Just as a update, I just got home and gave some of the pieces a good scrubbing and not only did it get the acrylics on some it also got the Krylor undercoat as well. Dident effect the enamel, but got just about everything else. As for the craft paint, its comming just very slowly.
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Posted by Triarius on Tuesday, February 27, 2007 5:00 PM

Applications that thick will take more time. Also, some of the paint you have used may not be as susceptible to Windex, particularly the craft paints.

As I don't use much MM metalizer, I don't know if it will work on those. 

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Acrylic Striping Question
Posted by Ranger_Chris61 on Tuesday, February 27, 2007 4:40 PM

Ok I have a quick question on stripping acrylics. I know that windex is one of the products that s supposed to do the trick and have the pieces that I am trying to strip in a bath of it. Now I put them in late yesterday and let them soak overnight. When I took a toothbrush to them this morning some of the paint was starting to give but overall there hasent been much change. Now I painted these peices years ago using a combination of craft paints and Cthidel, and have a pretty thick amount of pain on them. Is it simply that I havent let them sit long enough for the windex to take effect, since these peices have long cured, or is it something else?

Also as is the windex supposed to be stripping the MM metalizers?

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