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Tamiya Paint thinner alternatives.
Posted by jhawk on Wednesday, March 7, 2007 5:04 PM

Hello:  I used to know what alternatives I could use for thinning Tamiya water based paints, but I've forgotten.  Is is denatured alcohol or simply distilled water?  Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks.

 

Jon

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  • From: Reno, NV
Posted by espins1 on Wednesday, March 7, 2007 5:13 PM

Edited:

I've used isopropyl alcohol (I want to say 90% but can't remember off the top of my head, I'll have to look at the bottle when I get home) with good results.  It does make the paint dry fairly quickly however. 

I prefer to use Tamiya's thinner, and am still working off the original bottle I bought about 3 years ago.  I've found I get better finishes with Tamiya's thinner as well.

Scott Espin - IPMS Reno High Rollers  Geeked My Reviews 

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Posted by Triarius on Wednesday, March 7, 2007 5:18 PM
Scott and others have reported using denatured (ethyl alcohol made unpotable with additives) alcohol with success, however, my testing indicates that ethyl alcohol is incompatible with Tamiya acrylics. I prefer to use 90 percent isopropyl alcohol as my primary reducer, with a very small amount of acrylic retarder (about 0.1 cc per 2 cc of reduced paint.)

Ross Martinek A little strangeness, now and then, is a good thing… Wink

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Posted by espins1 on Wednesday, March 7, 2007 5:44 PM

 Triarius wrote:
Scott and others have reported using denatured (ethyl alcohol made unpotable with additives) alcohol with success, however, my testing indicates that ethyl alcohol is incompatible with Tamiya acrylics. I prefer to use 90 percent isopropyl alcohol as my primary reducer, with a very small amount of acrylic retarder (about 0.1 cc per 2 cc of reduced paint.)

Now that I think about it, I believe it's 90% isopropyl alcohol that I tried.  Sorry, I'll be home in a couple hours so I'll check the bottle then.

Scott Espin - IPMS Reno High Rollers  Geeked My Reviews 

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Posted by jhawk on Thursday, March 8, 2007 7:23 AM

Thanks for the tips so far, that's what I seem to remember.  I'll keep checking back.

 

Jon

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  • From: Sydney, Australia
Posted by Phil_H on Thursday, March 8, 2007 7:49 AM

 Triarius wrote:
Scott and others have reported using denatured (ethyl alcohol made unpotable with additives) alcohol with success, however, my testing indicates that ethyl alcohol is incompatible with Tamiya acrylics. I prefer to use 90 percent isopropyl alcohol as my primary reducer, with a very small amount of acrylic retarder (about 0.1 cc per 2 cc of reduced paint.)

Ross,

I don't seem to have any problem using denatured alcohol. However, I'll qualify that by saying that what I'm calling denatured alcohol is what we call methylated spirits (which is basically a methyl/ethyl blend + aforementioned additives) here in Aus. I do add a drop or two of retarder to my mix though.

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Posted by Triarius on Thursday, March 8, 2007 9:31 AM
 Phil_H wrote:

 Triarius wrote:
Scott and others have reported using denatured (ethyl alcohol made unpotable with additives) alcohol with success, however, my testing indicates that ethyl alcohol is incompatible with Tamiya acrylics. I prefer to use 90 percent isopropyl alcohol as my primary reducer, with a very small amount of acrylic retarder (about 0.1 cc per 2 cc of reduced paint.)

Ross,

I don't seem to have any problem using denatured alcohol. However, I'll qualify that by saying that what I'm calling denatured alcohol is what we call methylated spirits (which is basically a methyl/ethyl blend + aforementioned additives) here in Aus. I do add a drop or two of retarder to my mix though.

I've not tried methyl with it, as it is a restricted chemical over here (or was when I was doing the testing). It is entirely possible that methyl is compatible with Tamiya acrylics, and when used as a cosolvent with ethyl results in a compatible blend. If I can get some methyl, I'll test it.

A word of caution about paint-solvent compatibility: Paint formulations change, and what may have been compatible with the last bottle may not be compatible with the next. 

Ross Martinek A little strangeness, now and then, is a good thing… Wink

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  • From: Reno, NV
Posted by espins1 on Thursday, March 8, 2007 12:08 PM
The bottle I used was 70% Isopropyl alcohol.  Like I mentioned earlier, I much prefer Tamiya's thinner.  Smile [:)]

Scott Espin - IPMS Reno High Rollers  Geeked My Reviews 

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Posted by Triarius on Thursday, March 8, 2007 12:46 PM

I've been told (here, in the forums, can't remember by whom) that Tamiya thinner is mostly isopropyl alcohol with a retarder already added.

One of the problems with 70% isopropyl is the water used to dilute it. The 70% stuff is made by diluting the 90% stuff with local water at a regional bottling plant, in most cases. The local water, while potable, may contain all sorts of dissolved material that can play havoc with the paint. That's why I specify 90%. But you can blend your own 70% stuff for reducing from 90% if you use deionized or distilled water. In fact, I sometimes do this in the winter when it's very dry. 

Ross Martinek A little strangeness, now and then, is a good thing… Wink

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