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A Nice "QUIET" compressor with reserve tank!

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Posted by Jon_a_its on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 10:32 AM
Watch the wool mate
  
There was one guy did organic leather in england & died of anthrax, no kidding!
  
Seriously, the blue type of compressor shown above is 'quiet' as in 'bearable for a while'
  
for links, you should look for 'fridge type engines, almost totaly silent.....
Enjoy

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 29, 2007 6:00 AM
 Bgrigg wrote:

 

 

 

 

Considering some of the ingredients we work with, the glues, the paints, the thinners, the putties, the (gasp!) knives, we should toss it all away and take up with knitting organic wool.

 

Good idea Ive always wanted to raise sheep.

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Posted by TB6088 on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 1:39 AM

Leadsled,

Ditto on the CO2 tank and regulator.  Silent, compact, dial-in air pressure, about $12 for refill  every 14-18 months (for me), no electricity needed, and no condensation problems.  Got mine at a welding supply store for around $175. 

TomB 

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Posted by Bgrigg on Tuesday, March 27, 2007 10:44 PM

Yes, flooding a room with carbon dioxide is bad for you. Drinking too much water is bad for you. An excess of oxygen is bad for you. Bleeding some carbon dioxide into the room while ventilating it at the same time is a minimum hazard.

The Wikipedia article states that exhaled breathe is 4.5%, yet add a mere .5% and it's considered hazardous? Not just hazardous, but "immediately dangerous". Just a few paragraphs later it states 3% is dangerous. I take my life into my hands mouth every time I exhale? Sorry, but that's being alarmist. Sort of like Al Gore, eh? Wink [;)]

Considering some of the ingredients we work with, the glues, the paints, the thinners, the putties, the (gasp!) knives, we should toss it all away and take up with knitting organic wool.

 

So long folks!

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 27, 2007 9:52 PM
 Bgrigg wrote:

Other than Al Gore? Whistling [:-^]

CO² is what we breathe out, so I wouldn't worry. It's Carbon Monoxide (CO) that is the killer. CO² just smells bad!

saturating the air with anything is going to be bad for you.  adding CO2, or nitrogen or anything no matter how nontoxic is still going to displace oxygen. 

from wikipedia:

Pollution and toxicity

Carbon dioxide content in fresh air varies and is between 0.03% (300 ppm) and 0.06% (600 ppm), depending on location and in exhaled air approximately 4.5%. When inhaled in high concentrations (greater than 5% by volume), it is immediately dangerous to the life and health of humans and other animals. The current threshold limit value (TLV) or maximum level that is considered safe for healthy adults for an 8-hour work day is 0.5% (5000 ppm). The maximum safe level for infants, children, the elderly and individuals with cardio-pulmonary health issues would be significantly less.

These figures are valid for carbon dioxide supplied in "pure" form. In indoor spaces occupied by humans the carbon dioxide concentration will also reach a level higher than in pure outdoor air. Concentrations higher than 1000 ppm will cause discomfort in more than 20% of occupants, and the discomfort will increase with increasing CO2 concentration. The discomfort will be caused by various gases coming from human respiration and perspiration, and not by CO2 itself. At 2000 ppm will the majority of occupants feel a significant degree of discomfort, and many will develop nausea and headache. The CO2 concentration between 300 and 2500 ppm is used as an indicator of indoor air quality in spaces polluted by human occupation.

Acute carbon dioxide toxicity is sometimes known as Choke damp, an old mining industry term, and was the cause of death at Lake Nyos in Cameroon, where an upwelling of CO2-laden lake water in 1986 covered a wide area in a blanket of the gas, killing nearly 2000. The lowering of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is largely due to absorption by plants, which convert it to sugars through photosynthesis. Phytoplankton photosynthesis absorbs dissolved CO2 in the upper ocean and thereby promotes the absorption of CO2 from the atmosphere.[5]

Carbon dioxide is a surrogate for indoor pollutants that may cause occupants to grow drowsy, get headaches, or function at lower activity levels. To eliminate most Indoor Air QualityNIOSH considers that indoor air concentrations of carbon dioxide that exceed 1000 ppm are a marker suggesting inadequate ventilation (1,000 ppm equals 0.1%). ASHRAE recommends that CO2 levels not exceed 1000 ppm inside a space. OSHA limits carbon dioxide concentration in the workplace to 0.5% for prolonged periods. The U.S. National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health limits brief exposures (up to ten minutes) to 3% and considers concentrations exceeding 4% as "immediately dangerous to life and health." People who breathe 5% carbon dioxide for more than half an hour show signs of acute hypercapnia, while breathing 7–10% carbon dioxide can produce unconsciousness in only a few minutes. Carbon dioxide, either as a gas or as dry ice, should be handled only in well-ventilated areas. complaints, total indoor carbon dioxide must be reduced to below 600 ppm.

 

 

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Posted by Bgrigg on Tuesday, March 27, 2007 9:03 PM

Other than Al Gore? Whistling [:-^]

CO² is what we breathe out, so I wouldn't worry. It's Carbon Monoxide (CO) that is the killer. CO² just smells bad!

So long folks!

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 27, 2007 7:46 PM
anyone worried about pumping co2 into a room?  i realise it's probably not that much and the place should be ventilated anyway, but still.
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Posted by gjek on Tuesday, March 27, 2007 5:36 PM
You can get a tank anywhere they sell gasses. They usally sell regulators also. Just a thought, if you go to some auctions they often auction off welding equipment. I got a large oxygen tank and regulator for less than 50 dollars. I just traded in the oxygen tank for a CO2 tank, kept the regulator and was in business. I have done 5 kits (1/35) so far and haven't needed a refill yet.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 27, 2007 3:14 AM

 gjek wrote:
I agree with Chet. I have a 20# CO2 tank and love it. Silent, needs no power, portable, no moisture trap needed, lasts about a year between refills($14). No problems with pressure, no pulsing. Weigh the tank empty(with regulator installed) and write the weight on the side of the tank. After filling reweigh it full and record the weight. After painting one kit reweigh it. Now you know roughly how much you use per kit, and can figure how many kits you can paint before needing to refill.

How many kits per bottle?  Also what scale do you do?  I have a 20# tank laying arounsd and have thought about using it.

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Posted by Buckeye on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 9:16 AM

Where do you find one of these CO2 tanks, a welding supply store?

Thanks,

Mike

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Posted by gjek on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 11:59 PM
I agree with Chet. I have a 20# CO2 tank and love it. Silent, needs no power, portable, no moisture trap needed, lasts about a year between refills($14). No problems with pressure, no pulsing. Weigh the tank empty(with regulator installed) and write the weight on the side of the tank. After filling reweigh it full and record the weight. After painting one kit reweigh it. Now you know roughly how much you use per kit, and can figure how many kits you can paint before needing to refill.
Msgt USMC Ret M48, M60A1, M1A1
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Posted by chet on Sunday, March 18, 2007 11:53 AM
Buy a 5# co2 tank and a regulator cost about 70-90 for tank another 50 for regulator and its silent.Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 17, 2007 11:43 PM

that's a crowded boat!

doesn't look too bad.  just how quiet is it?  electric razor?  blender?  garbage disposal?  i've got a D500S and even though i've never had anyone complain it's still fairly loud in my opinion.

how about one of these?  anyone have any experience?  i've heard they're whisper quiet. 

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Posted by stretchie on Saturday, March 17, 2007 4:42 PM

I'm in the same boat as DesertRat......even bought the same setup from the same place. Big Smile [:D]

nice quiet unit. i got mine as a package with the Badger 150 Deluxe kit.

one of the best buys i ever made. Smile [:)]

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Posted by DesertRat on Saturday, March 17, 2007 12:58 PM
 jhande wrote:

This is a nice little unit - ABD TC-20T.

Thumbs Up [tup]

 

Yep! That's exactly what i have. Got it from Airbrush City. I'm in the same boat (apartment dweller) and i was looking for the same. They even threw in 3 different airbrushes to go with! Not too shabby.....

Warmest regards,

Roger

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Posted by leadsled757 on Saturday, March 17, 2007 7:58 AM

Thanks!  This looks like the unit for which I've been searching!

By the way, just when do you expect spring in NH? Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Cheers, Leadsled

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Posted by jhande on Saturday, March 17, 2007 3:07 AM

This is a nice little unit - ABD TC-20T.

Thumbs Up [tup]

 

-- Jim --
"Put the pedal down & shake the ground!"

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Posted by styrene on Wednesday, March 14, 2007 10:34 PM

Haven't seen any references recently, but Air Force makes (or made) spray systems from refrigerator compressors.  They are silent, well, like your refrigerator...  There are also some plans on here somewhere, I believe, on building your own out of an old refrigerator compressor system.  Try doing a forum search, and see what turns up.  Seems like MikeV or one of the other older forum members put some plans online.

Hope this at least gets you started.

Gip

 

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A Nice "QUIET" compressor with reserve tank!
Posted by leadsled757 on Wednesday, March 14, 2007 8:01 PM

 OK, Folks, I need some advice here.

I'm in the market for a compressor that doesn't sound like I'm in an autobody repair shop.  I've had the diaphram oil-free type of the past and those things will raise the dead.  I've jury-rigged a air tank but fill it from a tire pump compressor.  This has two limitations.  The first is, of course, the noise every time I have to re-fill the tank and the size of the tank itself.  You risk running out of air in the middle of some intense airbrushing. 

I'm looking for a tank-reservior, self-filling "QUIET" compressor.  I live in an apartment so the thing needs to fit, say, under my hobby table.  One of the vendors at the Atlanta Nationals had a type being demonstrated but I didn't get the name of the unit.

Any suggestions from the field far and wide? 

I appreciate your help.

Yours in a box of spare parts,

Leadsled

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