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What causes grittyness when airbrushing?

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What causes grittyness when airbrushing?
Posted by TryintoModel on Monday, April 16, 2007 4:51 PM
I get this sometimes, but it's not apparent until after it's dried and I'm handling the model.  The look doesn't seem all that bad, but the feel is definately a gritty feeling.  Like its got a layer of dust or something.  I'm guessing that its just from spraying from too far away and the paint is drying before it gets there.  Can anyone shed some light if they know what the main cause is?  I'm using MM enamels with the MM thinner.  I usually don't thin the paint that much, that could be an issue also.  I know I'll have to experiment, but I thought I would ask here also.
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Posted by Triarius on Monday, April 16, 2007 5:09 PM

The paint is hitting the model surface partially dried.

Things to try:

  • Reduce (thin) the paint more. 
  • Get closer.
  • Reduce the pressure.
  • Combinations of the above. 

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Posted by IYAAYAS on Monday, April 16, 2007 6:01 PM
Also are you using any type of alcohol?  Alcohol causes the paint to dry very quickly.  Try thinning it with water.
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Posted by TryintoModel on Monday, April 16, 2007 7:14 PM

Thanks, Triarius.  Those are some of the things I was thinking also, but I wanted reassurance.  I didn't think about the air pressure, though.  I had raised my usual pressure a while back thinking that it would flow better especially for big jobs, perhaps that might be the culprit.  Getting closer might be the cause also, but that, and the way I thin my paint, hasn't really changed, just the additional air pressure mainly. 

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Posted by jwb on Monday, April 16, 2007 7:32 PM
I get that occasionally. A light sanding with some very fine sandpaper.... even a coffee filter... usually takes care of it for me.

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Posted by Triarius on Tuesday, April 17, 2007 10:36 AM

Raising air pressure allows you to get better aspiration and atomization of thicker paint.

To get better flow, both through the brush and on the surface (leveling) thin the paint more. If for some reason you don't want to thin it (or you didn't get it thin enough) move in closer and drop the pressure slightly.

Paints that are intended for brushing with bristles are much too thick to airbrush—and most paints are manufactured to those viscosities because proper dispersal of the pigment requires them. Paint viscosity is adjusted after it has met color requirements.

As a general rule of paint-stained thumb, paint with "normal" viscosity has to be reduced 30 to 50 percent for aerosol application, whether from a spray can or an air brush. 

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Posted by Adriaran on Tuesday, April 17, 2007 11:53 AM

I've noticed a grittyness too, and I don't thin the paint at all. So I've noticed it kind of disappears fast, heh. How much would you actually thin the paint? I've tried once, and it seems to be too thin, so it doesn't leave a solid coat.

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Posted by Shogun on Tuesday, April 17, 2007 12:26 PM

I have expereinced a similiar issue with Acrylic MM paint.  Grittyness or bumpy surface or finish.  I am assuming some of the same factors apply that the forum has listed.  However, I am not sure if Acrylic has some unique properties that would change your approach between Enamal vs. Acrylic.

My theroy was that since I was painting in my garage, and the temp was around 40 degrees the paint might be too cold causing it to be lumpy comming out of the airbrush.  Not sure if this makes sense. Any thoughts?

 

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Posted by Triarius on Tuesday, April 17, 2007 1:27 PM

Adriaran: see the last paragraph of my post, above.

Unless you are very good with an air brush, I would never try to cover in a single coat. Several light coats are generally better. You can always apply another coat—getting the one the ran and sagged off, especially with enamels, is another matter.

 

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Posted by Triarius on Tuesday, April 17, 2007 1:32 PM
Shogun: The same considerations apply when spraying acrylics. However, acrylics are generally much more temperature sensitive than enamels. One of the things that low temperatures can do, especially but not exclusively with acrylics, is reduce the amount of atomization at a given spraying pressure and paint viscosity. The other consideration is that the relative humidity is usually lower in cold seasons, causing aqueous and alcohol based paint to dry more rapidly, losing more solvent between the airbrush and the surface, and reducing coalescence on the surface.

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