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Thinning MM enamels for airbrushing

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    November 2005
Posted by ssgkopp on Sunday, May 6, 2007 9:59 AM

i use MM paint MM thinner and a testors AB  

ive found with MM enamels some paints require more thinning than others so useing the thinness of milk as the starting point you can always add a little more thinner to the mix  also i have a q-tip ready to dip in thinner to wipe the tip to clean it up if any spray problems develop just remeber if your brush uses nozzels that you have to pull back the needle first or you will bend it with the q-tip  i learned this the costly way

 also if you are using a Aztec 470 or a model near it the the nossels have to be really clean they may look clean then you start spraying and clumps of old paint are loosened mostly this paint is inside the nossle assmbly with the needle and spring assembly so you reallly have to take it apart to ensure it is clean i soak the nossels in paint thinner after each session then disassemble and wipe everything down to ensure i spray good  but this is the reason im going to a better ab as there is no differance in cleaning time

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Posted by TB6088 on Saturday, May 5, 2007 12:27 PM

 DCV wrote:
Just trying to be clear on what tools and supplies and instructions I`m using so anyone who has been kind enough to answer has the background on what has gotten me to this point.

DCV,

Hey, I know that, and no offense intended.  Next time I'll just have to plant my tongue a little more firmly in my cheek so it's obvious that I'm joking.

TomB

DCV
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Posted by DCV on Thursday, May 3, 2007 5:41 AM
Just trying to be clear on what tools and supplies and instructions I`m using so anyone who has been kind enough to answer has the background on what has gotten me to this point.
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Posted by TB6088 on Wednesday, May 2, 2007 11:03 PM

 DCV wrote:
I`m using Testors Model Master enamels.... Testors airbrush thinner...... Testors airbrush kit.....  Testors kit instructions (1 part thinner to 3 parts paint).....when using the thinning ratio Testors recommends the paint isn`t as thin as it really needs to be...... endless experimenting with $3.50 a bottle paint.....

DCV,

There seems to be a theme--- alluding to some sort of Machavellian model industry marketing ploy (say that 3 times fast)--- running through your narrative..... or am I just being too suspicious?

TomB 

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  • From: Greencastle, IN
Posted by eizzle on Monday, April 30, 2007 5:32 PM
While I do agree about the lacquer thinner ( i normally use normal oderless paint thinner, but I know the lacquer thinner is good stuff to!) be careful using it in your airbrush. I am pretty sure I know which brush your talking about, and I think the lacquer thinner will be pretty hard on it, the thinner will eat plastic! I think what you are seeing is the quality of the airbrush. I have used these, and have had the same results. IMHO, if you can afford $70, go over to www.dixieart.com and get yourself an Badger 175 or something like that, and learn to use that one. While it can take a bit longer to get used to (double action and all that) it is a great brush, and you wont have the problems your running into with this one.

Colin

 Homer Simpson for president!!!

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  • From: Somewhere over the rainbow
Posted by m1garand on Monday, April 30, 2007 8:13 AM
 TwelveAlpha wrote:

I cut it at least 50/50 with lacquer thinner. Flows nice, still covers nice, the thinner flashes off moments after it hits the surface so there really isnt any issue with runs.

My 2 cents. Oh, and a gallon of lacquer thinner for $10, that'll last a good long while.

I also use the lacquer thinner as well for my MM paints with the ratio of 50/50.  I haven't had any problems yet. 

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  • From: Northeast WA State
Posted by armornut on Sunday, April 29, 2007 9:56 PM
 As a rule i thin my paint to almost the constisence of milk,i've had no trouble thinning emanels with laquer thinner or denatured mineral spirits(mineral spirits can be bought "oderless" be be sure to use adequit ventilation with both though)IMHO spend the money on a compressor even a small one this may allow you a larger tolerance on the thinner used.

we're modelers it's what we do

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    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, April 29, 2007 5:50 PM

I cut it at least 50/50 with lacquer thinner. Flows nice, still covers nice, the thinner flashes off moments after it hits the surface so there really isnt any issue with runs.

My 2 cents. Oh, and a gallon of lacquer thinner for $10, that'll last a good long while.

DCV
  • Member since
    July 2006
Thinning MM enamels for airbrushing
Posted by DCV on Sunday, April 29, 2007 5:33 PM
I`m using Testors Model Master enamels along with Testors airbrush thinner with a Testors entry level Blue Mini airbrush kit.
Per the airbrush kit instructions the mixture is 1 part thinner to 3 parts paint.

This is what I`ve found:

1. The paint coverage is great- using the large size tip-can easily cover a surface fairly smoothly and the paint doesn`t run or sag until number 2 occurs.

2. After a few minutes of airbrushing I start to get small clumps of paint delivered along with the fine mist being delivered from the nozzle.

3. My fine tip nozzle will spray straight thinner fine but not paint when thinned as noted above.

4. I played around with it yesterday and came to the conclusion that when using the thinning ratio Testors recommends the paint isn`t as thin as it really needs to be to flow from this particualr airbrush well.

Rather than endless experimenting with $3.50 a bottle paint, is there another paint/thinner ration I should use to get better results?
I`m looking to be able to use my fine tip for unmasked camo jobs and pre-shading and such- I`ve got to stay with this airbrush for awhile until my skill improves enough to justify the cost of a higher quality airbrush and compressor.
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