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  • From: Southern Oregon, USA
Posted by gedenke on Thursday, May 24, 2007 12:41 AM
I'm sure that cheap pipe cleaners is the guilty party for me. They tend to fall apart, especially when dampened with thinner.
-Geoff There is an art . . . to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. — Douglas Adams, 'The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy'.
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Posted by Bgrigg on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 11:11 PM

Yes, that's the needle bearing (PN 50-040), and it's supposed to be a factory replace item only. I managed to put mine is alright, but I suppose there is a way to do it wrong and mess up. I think if I ever have to replace another one I am going to send it back to the factory for a tune up at the same time. Since I have both a 100LG and 150, I don't have to do without an airbrush in the mean time.

I've not yet had a blockage so bad that I needed to use a mechanical aid. You can't use the cheapo pipe cleaners people use for crafts, they're terrible. Go to a proper tobacconists and see what kinds of pipe cleaners they have, after all it's the real stuff! Be careful you use one that won't split the tip on the head assembly. 

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Posted by gedenke on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 10:18 PM

I have the Badger 200 and have been having some similar problems. I too gave it an overnight soak in laquer thinner and comensed to give it a complete tear-down cleaning. While I was scouring it a little teflon-looking bushing came out (I didn't even know it was in there! Confused [%-)]), I assume this is what H3 called a "needle bearing". Long story short, I cleaned the crap out of everything I could and it seems to be working much better. By the way, I did put the "needle bearing back in.

While we're talking about cleaning Badgers, what do you all use to clean the needle "pathway" (for lack of a better word)? I've been using pipe cleaners, but they tend to leave little "fuzzies" in the A/B that are rather tricky to get out. I bought an air duster (the kind you use to clean your keyboard) today to see if that will help blast out any blockages.

-Geoff There is an art . . . to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. — Douglas Adams, 'The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy'.
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Posted by Ranger_Chris61 on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 4:26 PM
OK I have one of the brushes working, the 200, I think there is some sort of problem with the air getting from the inlet on the brush to the place where it mixes with the paint. So I manage to get it to work through a combination of uping the psi to 40 and changing the paint mixture to a 50/50 paint to thiner.
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Posted by Ranger_Chris61 on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 3:43 PM
 Bgrigg wrote:

BTW bad for painting weather is good cleaning airbrush weather! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

LoL, that is true, but I live in Southern California so this is really odd weather for us.

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Posted by Bgrigg on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 3:15 PM

Hopefully that will work, but if there is paint that has dried and CURED in the brush, you will only end up with clean paint clogs. The lacquer thinner will eliminate all traces of dried paint.

BTW bad for painting weather is good cleaning airbrush weather! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

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Posted by Ranger_Chris61 on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 2:25 PM
Im using testors model master acrlycs, and they are fresh bought only a few weeks ago. As for cleaning them I right now have had them soaking in windex since i made the post and have yet to get back to them as the wether here has been bad for painting.
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Posted by Bgrigg on Monday, May 21, 2007 12:45 PM
I thought about the needle bearing, but the chances of two airbrushes going down at the same time with the same problem is too coincidental. I have the 100LG and it doesn't get as clean as you think it does.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 21, 2007 11:12 AM

I would have to agree with Bill, sounds like two dirty brushes.  Or possibly a bad needle bearing in both ( been there, done that ).

 

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Posted by ABARNE on Monday, May 21, 2007 1:31 AM

 Ranger_Chris61 wrote:
Now is it posible that both of these airbrush have finaly decided to die on me, or is it posible the mixture of paint that i am using?

From a failure analysis perspective, it strikes me as being unlikely that both airbrushes would die simultaneously.  I would look to your paint.

What kind of paint are you using?  Does this happen with all colors?  How old is the paint? 

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Posted by Bgrigg on Sunday, May 20, 2007 9:46 PM

Much more likely that it requires a darn good cleaning. There is little that can wear so badly that the brush will "die". The head assembly might split, but that's easily replaced once the proper part is in hand.

Remove the needle and the trigger mechanism (where the hose attaches), as it has an o-ring that will get destroyed otherwise, and soak in lacquer thinner. You can leave it in for half an hour, or longer. Then do a thorough cleaning with windex or simple green, and flush with distilled water, and you should be good to go.

If that doesn't work, send it to Badger (there are instructions on how to do so on their website) and they will give you an estimate to replace or rebuild. Sometimes they just require a tweaking to get back to factory new settings.

 

 

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Airbrush Problems
Posted by Ranger_Chris61 on Sunday, May 20, 2007 8:08 PM
I am haveing serious problems with both of my badger airbrushes, a 100 and 200. Whenever i try and use them they will either not spray at all, or when they do spray it is only becuase i have thined the paint i am useing to the point that it will not work and i ultimatly will have to strip the piece that i am working on, and again that is if it sprays at all. Now is it posible that both of these airbrush have finaly decided to die on me, or is it posible the mixture of paint that i am using?
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