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Pollyscale is driving me NUTS!!

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  • Member since
    June 2006
  • From: Calgary
Pollyscale is driving me NUTS!!
Posted by MaxPower on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 10:38 PM

I was recommended Pollyscale in my LHS and I've read good things about it here so I figured I'd try it out. I was expecting a nice, easy experience.

I sprayed it through my Eclipse, thinning with distilled water by about 10%. I got the worst tip drying I've ever experienced. I tried thinning with Tamiya thinner as well. That was last night.

Tonight I tried my Anthem, thinking it has a larger nozzle. I just thinned with water as the Tamiya thinner didn't seem to help at all. Some thing. It sprays if I really open up the brush, but I'm trying to do free hand camo. So when I pull back I get nothing... nothing... nothing... then BLAMMO! paint spits everywhere. If I thin more I still get the tip dry but also spider legs. I've tried various pressures blah blah.

Everybody goes on about what a great paint this is. Where am I going wrong? What should I do??

 

Thanks in advance!! 

  • Member since
    January 2003
  • From: Peoples Socialist Democratic Republic of Illinois
Posted by Triarius on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 10:58 PM

I love Polly Scale. Here are my recommendations:

Thin to the consistency of 2% milk. That means anything from 10% reducer (thinner to those outside the paint industry Wink [;)]) and up. Pour some 2% milk into a glass and swirl it—note how it looks as it drains back into the bottom—that's what you are looking for. A little too thin, with acrylics, is better than not thin enough.

Get some acrylic retarder from an artist's supply store. About 1 drop in a airbrush cup's worth of paint is all you need. The stuff has to be stirred forever to disperse in the paint, by the way. But it will largely eliminate the tip dry problem.

Thin only with distilled water. Tamiya thinner is alcohol, and Polly Scale is not compatible with alcohol.

I primarily use Tamiya acrylics as primer and for hand painting, because they are thicker. If Polly Scale had basic colors (red, green, blue, yellow, etc.) and was a little thicker, I'd use nothing else. Once you get the knack, you'll see what other's rave about. 

Ross Martinek A little strangeness, now and then, is a good thing… Wink

  • Member since
    May 2005
  • From: Left forever
Posted by Bgrigg on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 11:49 PM

Ditto on Ross's post (I am refusing to use the ditto emoticon as it is spelled wrong!)! Make sure you use distilled water (available in the grocery stork in gallon jugs. I think the last one I bought was on sale for $0.99) as regular water has lots of unwanted extras, like calcium. Good for the teeth and bones, bad for the airbrush! 

I note that he and I are just about the only ones that hand brushes with Tamiya!

So long folks!

jwb
  • Member since
    February 2006
  • From: Parkton, NC
Posted by jwb on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 6:27 AM

Sorry to hear you're having problems..... I don't have any advice unfortunately.

I shoot it straight from the bottle, no thinning or anything most of the time. About 17 psi. If I do thin it, it's to shoot on very thin, misted coats, and I use alchohol. (In the AB, not in me..... LOL)

I did have horrible tip dry with PS and my Paasche VL. Switched to using my Aztek 470 exclusively, and never had a problem since. Don't know what difference it made. 

Jon Bius

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  • Member since
    February 2006
  • From: Smithers, BC, Canada
Posted by ruddratt on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 10:36 AM
 Triarius wrote:

Pour some 2% milk into a glass and swirl it—note how it looks as it drains back into the bottom—that's what you are looking for.

I've gauged the thinning (I'm a machinist by trade, Ross Wink [;)] ) of my paint like that for years.....nice to see I'm not the only one, although I never knew quite how to describe it. Never went much for numbers to determine ratios as much as how it actually 'looked' in the bottle prior to airbrushing.

Mike

 "We have our own ammunition. It's filled with paint. When we fire it, it makes pretty pictures....scares the hell outta people."

 

  • Member since
    May 2003
  • From: Right side of the Front row.
Posted by kirk4010 on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 8:02 PM

I thin with a 50/50 mixture of distilled water and ISO propel alcohol and then add a drop of flow aid enhancer.

I also saw a article where the author thins his with a 50/50 mixture of Polly S and Polly S gloss clear.  I tried it and had varied results.

The art of war is simple enough. Find out where your enemy is. Get at him as soon as you can. Strike him as hard as you can, and keep moving.-Ulysses S. Grant
  • Member since
    February 2004
  • From: Humble
Posted by rrmmodeler on Thursday, May 24, 2007 10:01 AM

I mainly use Pollyscle paints and they are great paints. Though they are getting on the expensive side. Anyway I use distilled water to thin, I used to use alcohol but had problems with tip drying more than I did with distilled water. I thin to the constistency of 2% milk like someone else has already said. I also add a drop Golden flow aid from time to time. I have also heard of people puting in a drop of dishwashing soap as well, but I have never have tried this myself yet.

Still most of the time I still have a problem with tip drying. To me it just comes with using acrylics because I have it with all the acrylics that I use. I just keep a moist Q-tip near by to wipe off the tip. Practice with them for a little while and you will find a formula that works for you.

By the way I also use Tamiya paints to brush paint from time to time.

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