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  • Member since
    December 2005
Posted by PZL P.62 on Tuesday, June 26, 2007 4:46 PM

Oooh. Well, I'll fiddle around with it until the problem goes away...

  • Member since
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  • From: Sydney, Australia
Posted by Phil_H on Tuesday, June 26, 2007 9:25 AM
 PZL P.62 wrote:

I tightened the head as much as possible, but there was still a leak, although it wasn't as bad as last time and I managed to paint my model (it's got splotches on it but oh well). When I get more free time I'll try to tighten the head some more.

It shouldn't be necessary to tighten it that much - tighten to "finger tight" and then just give it a little tweak with the supplied wrench. That's all you should need. Attempting to tighten further may damage the screw threads, or worse, snap the neck which screws into the body.   

 

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  • From: Portland, Oregon
Posted by fantacmet on Tuesday, June 26, 2007 2:32 AM

You know I recently had a similar problem with my model maker airbrush, and I found the issue.  The little plastic seal that seals the little cone thingy had fallen off during cleaning(mine are interchangeable depending on the needle size so I hvae to swap them out on occasion), it fell down the drain.  Good thing there are 2 more seals one on each of the other nozzle thingy's.  Anyway that solved the issue.  So I think Phil_H is right on the money.  He knows far more about that airbrush then I do, and he pretty much described the equivalent on your airbrush.  I would seriously consider his words of advice.  Sounds the most likely candidate for the issue, and he sounds the most likely candidate to tell more specifically how to fix it.

 

Just my $0.02

Michael

    

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Posted by PZL P.62 on Monday, June 25, 2007 9:52 PM

Again, I would like to thank Phil and everyone else who responded to my thread.

KJ200: I took apart and cleaned my entire airbrush, so the head is clean and free of paint particles and the needle is sharp and unbent. So I don't think it's that.

I tightened the head as much as possible, but there was still a leak, although it wasn't as bad as last time and I managed to paint my model (it's got splotches on it but oh well). When I get more free time I'll try to tighten the head some more.

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  • From: Bicester, England
Posted by KJ200 on Friday, June 22, 2007 8:26 AM

Both my 100s bubble if:

The head is not tightened up sufficiently. just needs nipping up with the spanner.

or:

If the head is clogged with dried paint. This is usually sorted by spraying throught some Lacquer thinner, or dunking the head in a pot of the same over night. Just remember to remove the O ring first.

Needle dammage couls be a factor, but should be easy to check and discount.

Karl 

Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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  • From: Watkinsville, GA
Posted by shall on Monday, June 18, 2007 4:10 PM
Phil, I posted this problem in another thread but you're here and seem to know something about airbrushes.  My 100LG is leaking (bubbling out) paint from between the head and body.  From what you say and what I see looking at it, only air should be in that chamber, not paint.  Sounds to me like my washer is bad.  What do you think?  Can I buy one someplace or do I have to send my airbrush back to Badger?
shall
  • Member since
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  • From: Sydney, Australia
Posted by Phil_H on Friday, June 15, 2007 8:13 PM

Actually I would be less inclined to think it was the nozzle itself (the cone shaped brass piece at the end of the head, which is exposed when you unscrew the tip). If you didn't remove the nozzle when cleaning, I don't think it would be a problem. I have never removed the nozzle from the head (never had a reason to), so I can't even tell you if it's a friction fit or a screw thread. Either way, if it is installed correctly, then the flange at the "wide" end of the cone should be flush against the mounting in the head.

I still suspect you have an air leak at the head/body washer. Check that the parts either side of the washer are clean, ie no paint, dust, lumps or bumps. Re-check the washer for scratches/gouges/cracks etc. Also, check that the head is tightened sufficiently. Use the wrench supplied and tighten just a little more than "finger tight", but don't over do it.

The head/body junction is made to incredibly tight tolerances. The "outer" air seal is maintained between the base of the head and the rim of the body simply by the two parts being butted against each other. I've never had a problem with the washer myself, but others have described a pulsating, intermittent paint flow when the washer has been damaged. I would be inclined to replace the washer (and have an extra on hand as a spare). 

 

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Posted by PZL P.62 on Friday, June 15, 2007 10:15 AM

Ok, thanks Phil. You always know how to troubleshoot my airbrush! However, how do I adjust the nozzle to stop the air bubbles?

I think that the nozzle might be the cause, since I cleaned my airbrush thoroughly right before this problem began, and needle is undamaged, and the washer appears to be in good condition.

  • Member since
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  • From: Sydney, Australia
Posted by Phil_H on Sunday, June 10, 2007 11:47 PM

There's really only two places in the 100LG where air can enter the paint path:

Referring to the exploded diagram at http://www.badger-airbrush.com/100lgparts.htm

1: Where the head screws into the body, if the washer, (50-055) is damaged or missing, air can enter the paint path down the threads of the head. Note that this washer can sometimes be flattened or crushed between the head and the body. Some recommend loosening the head when the airbrush is packed away so this doesn't happen.

2: if the nozzle isn't correctly seated in the head before the tip is screwed on.

If either of these conditions is true, then you will be getting an erratic spray, probably with a minimal amount of paint being sprayed out before stopping. (ie. not a smooth continuous flow) Some paint will be expelled under pressure from the tip causing the spattering, because the airbrush isn't working correctly. Instead of atomising the paint as it would when operating normally, air pressure inside the paint path will "squirt" paint through the tip into the air stream.

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Posted by PZL P.62 on Sunday, June 10, 2007 10:27 PM

Ok, thanks

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  • From: Westerville, Ohio
Posted by Air Master Modeler on Sunday, June 10, 2007 2:51 PM

The bubble problem is likely being cause by a cloged tip or damaged needle and forcing air to back flow into the cup. Break down your airbrush to clean and examine it closely for damage. Try swapping out with a new paint needle and see if the same problem occurs, if so than the old needle was damaged. Damage to the paint needle can also cause splattering. Also check your air flow to much or to little air can cause problems also.

 Air Master  

Rand

30 years experience building plastic models.

WIP: Revell F-14B Tomcat, backdating to F-14A VF-32 1989 Gulf Of Sidra MiG-23 Killer "Gypsy 207".

  • Member since
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Air bubbles in my paint cup
Posted by PZL P.62 on Sunday, June 10, 2007 2:37 PM
Recently, I've been having some problems with my Badger 100LG airbrush. Long story short, I thought I cleared them up, but when I went to paint my model this afternoon I noticed that it was splattering the paint and that there were air bubbles in the paint cup. I think air is leaking into my paint cup, but I'm not sure how to fix it. The owner's manual doesn't saying anything regarding this problem. If anyone knows how to correct this, I'd greatly appreciate it. Thanks!
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