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My First Airbrush and Compressor - Your Help Is Apprecaited

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My First Airbrush and Compressor - Your Help Is Apprecaited
Posted by Anonymous on Monday, June 11, 2007 1:11 AM

I was hoping to pick your brains regarding some research I've been doing prior to purchasing my first airbrush. For starters, chances are I won't be using the brush for modeling; instead I'll be using it to paint 3 3/4-inch action figures and their companion vehicles and diorama playsets. I've been sculpting and casting figures for about 10 years and figured it was time to get rid of the old paint brush and start using an airbrush. I'm hoping that despite my alternate realm of interest, I can contribute to the group once I pick up my airbrush. I figured this would be a good place to ask my questions because of the wealth of knowledge I've picked up by reading your posts.   In any case, here come the questions!

Since I'll be dealing with a smaller scale, detail is important to me.  Eyelashes can be as thin as a hairline, but appendages or torsos will require a wider area of coverage.  Additionally, if I'm adding detail to a larger vehicle or diorama I'd like the freedom to get a wider area of coverage. Is there a specific brush that is good at covering such a wide range of detail?  I'd like the airbrush to be flexible enough to allow me to expand beyond the 3 3/4-inch scale possibly to the 12-inch scale. Are there any considerations I should make regarding nozzles or hoses when performing the various tasks? Would it be practical to consider a kit?

I live in a townhouse and noise can be an issue. I've read about air bush compressors that are virtually silent, but not as powerful as your run-of-the-mill, all-purpose compressor. Could you recommend a compressor that is silent, but doesn't make the neighbors think the roof is caving in?

At this point, price isn't really an issue, thought I'd prefer to keep things around the $200 ballpark for everything I'll need to get started.  If I need to pay a little more I can, if I don't have to I'd rather not. Thanks in advance for all of you help and I look forward to showing you some of my work in the not so distant future.

Rich

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, June 11, 2007 11:35 AM

IMHO, what you need is an illustrator's brush.  My recommendations are as follows: Iwata HP-C or HP-CS;  Badger Sotar 20-20, Badger 100lg set (F,M,H), or 200-20 detail airbrush.  Paasche offers the VSR90.  There are other brands out there, but I consider these as some of the more common ones. As far as compressors, get a good silent compressor or a semi silent piston compressor with a tank.  You'll probably end up paying around $500-$600 for all of it, but you'll be well pleased with this set up.  HTH.

 

E

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, July 1, 2007 7:03 PM

Thanks for the advice. I ended up buying the Iwata HP-C and the Iwata Smart Jet IS-850, paying about $250, which wasn't too bad.

I've started brushing to get a feel for the process and can tell I've got a lot to learn Smile [:)]

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Posted by saltydog on Monday, July 2, 2007 5:33 PM
i don't know what type of paint you are using, but i have an hp-c and had a great deal of difficulty dial it in to spray modelling paint.  the hp-c is designed to handle smaller pigment paint such as inks, dyes, and urethanes.  i ended up buying the iwata eclipse and BINGO, the best airbrush i've ever used, and i've been through quite a few brands and types.  good luck with the hp-c.  its a great airbrush, but she's fussy with larger pigmented paints.  i don't really see anybody airbrushing eyelashes onto a figure as small as that friend!!  you'll find more control with those type things using a small brush as you've been doing.  later.
Chris The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris
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Posted by MikeV on Wednesday, July 4, 2007 8:49 PM

 saltydog wrote:
i don't know what type of paint you are using, but i have an hp-c and had a great deal of difficulty dial it in to spray modelling paint.  the hp-c is designed to handle smaller pigment paint such as inks, dyes, and urethanes.  i ended up buying the iwata eclipse and BINGO, the best airbrush i've ever used, and i've been through quite a few brands and types.  good luck with the hp-c.  its a great airbrush, but she's fussy with larger pigmented paints.  i don't really see anybody airbrushing eyelashes onto a figure as small as that friend!!  you'll find more control with those type things using a small brush as you've been doing.  later.

You Iwata traitor! Laugh [(-D]

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by saltydog on Thursday, July 5, 2007 1:47 PM
hey mikey, been along time since we argued talked about airbrushes friend!LOL   how's the  marine?   good  to  "see"  you again.  later.
Chris The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris
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Posted by piflo1 on Thursday, July 5, 2007 9:02 PM

OK.  I have a Badger Anthem 155.  Isn't the Iwata Eclipse the same? 

I am very curious cause I have been wondering if I should get a new Airbrush for finer detail. 

 

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Posted by MikeV on Thursday, July 5, 2007 11:16 PM

 saltydog wrote:
hey mikey, been along time since we argued talked about airbrushes friend!LOL   how's the  marine?   good  to  "see"  you again.  later.

My Marine son is doing good, thanks for asking brother.

 

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by MikeV on Thursday, July 5, 2007 11:20 PM
 piflo1 wrote:

OK.  I have a Badger Anthem 155.  Isn't the Iwata Eclipse the same? 

I am very curious cause I have been wondering if I should get a new Airbrush for finer detail. 

 

The Anthem and the Eclipse are similar yes. Both were designed for T-shirt airbrushing.

If you want something finer I would suggest the Badger 100LG or the T&C Omni 4000.

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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  • From: Lower Alabama
Posted by saltydog on Friday, July 6, 2007 6:41 PM

i was on dixieart.com the other night and saw that the iwata HP-CR now offered a .35mm needle and nozzle!!  that is the same size that is standard in the iwata eclipse for about $40 bucks cheaper than the eclipse.  the CR is listed at $64 bucks!  very competitive price for a quality airbrush. 

whatever brand you choose, i'd recommend a gravity feed brush.  you can operate it at lower psi  which translates into more detail.  fine lines and such depend on a combination of 3 things; (1)thin paint,  (2)low air pressure, and (3)distance of airbrush from surface being painted.  good luck with your purchase.  later.   

 

Chris The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris
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