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Painting questions
Posted by Anonymous on Friday, October 3, 2003 11:35 AM
Hello all,

I am fairly new to modelling static kits but have been painting Games Workshop minatures for a few years. But when painting minatures you tend to over exaggerate the highlighting and washes to give it an almost cartoony feel. I don't think it would look right on a scale model of a real object (bike, car plane etc). Plus it doesn't work well on large areas. Anyway, on to some questions:

1. I wish to use Tamiya acrylics for airbrushing but can I use water as a thinner (being as they themselves are water based)?

2. When assembling any model in general, do people airbrush all the parts and just handpaint fine detail work (i.e. steering wheels/columns, brakes, cockpits etc)?

3. I have brought some Johnsons Klear (or Future). Should it be used just for the main body of a kit (i.e. shell of car, bike and fueselage of aircraft). And does it leave a glossy finish??

4. Can anyone also recommend good acrylic paints that can be used for airbrushing armour kits (or is Tamiya paint the best??)

Any replies will be most appreciated.

Dan
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  • From: Sandusky Ohio, USA
Posted by Swanny on Friday, October 3, 2003 12:03 PM
1. You can use distilled water but are better off using isopropyl alcohol 90% as your thinner for Tamiya paints. For Polly Scale you can use Windex or Windolene.

2. Usually - yes.

3. Read my article on this subject to answer all your questions.
http://www.swannysmodels.com/TheCompleteFuture.html

4. Tamiya is very good so is Polly Scale. I use some Model Master acrylics also but you need to add some flow-aid to help out these paints.
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  • From: Harrisburg, PA
Posted by Lufbery on Friday, October 3, 2003 2:51 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Dan1677
1. I wish to use Tamiya acrylics for airbrushing but can I use water as a thinner (being as they themselves are water based)?


Hi Dan,

I use Tamiya Model Master's own brand of acrylic thinner, but I usually just use a drop or two at a time. I usually fill the airbrush reservoir about a quarter full, add a couple of drops of thinner, and then shake the bottle a bit. The paints go down very nicely in several light coats.

Two other tips:

(1) put a couple of drops of dishwashing soap in the bottle when you first open it. This breaks the paint's natural surface tension and helps it flow better.

(2) put a couple of BBs in the paint jar and shake to mix the paint. I usually mix it first with a toothpick and then shake the jar.

Some people will caution you against shaking the paint to mix it, but I've not had any trouble.

Regards,

-Drew

-Drew

Build what you like; like what you build.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, October 3, 2003 4:50 PM
Thanks guys for your input. My Badger 200 airbrush has just been delivered so I guess it's time to start painting my 1/12 scale Red Bull Yamaha. I'm scared!!!!!!
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  • From: Sandusky Ohio, USA
Posted by Swanny on Friday, October 3, 2003 7:11 PM
Dan, good choice on the airbrush - I'm sure it will serve you well for many years to come.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 5, 2003 5:58 AM
Occassionally I use window cleaner with good results.
In general own brand thinner is recommended though.
Tamiya, modelmaster, vallejo are all good acrylics. I like lifecolor too.
whats the obsession with Future in the us anyway...please explain LOL
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Posted by shermanfreak on Sunday, October 5, 2003 9:06 AM
Thyamis - Future .... what's not to love !!!

Airbrush ready, self leveling, add a little Tamiya's Acrylic Flat agent and it makes a great dull-cote, no unsightly smells like Testor's dullcote, and most of all ....... cheap!
Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, October 6, 2003 1:26 PM
If windex works to thin polly scale paint ,can you use windex to clean my air brush.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, October 7, 2003 6:58 AM
Hmm. I tried using that Future stuff that everyone raves about and I can't get it to look 'right'. When I airbrush it on it makes the surface look 'lumpy'. Does it need to be thinned? Do I need more than one coat?? I'm afraid to ruin my first kit!! Everything has gone okay so far I don't want to lose it now! Also when airbrushing with acrylics is it safe to leave the airbrush between coats (whilst drying) with the paint still in the jar? Or should I clean the airbrush after every coat??? Thanks guys.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 8, 2003 3:50 PM
Using Acrylic paints I always clean my airbrush between coats because of the fast drying time of acrylic paints. I just keep a bottle of 90% Isopropal Alcohol and spray that through the brush between coats, and also use a q-tip coated with it to gently clean the needle, doesnt take but a minute and keeps everything clean and my sprays consistant.
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Posted by MikeV on Wednesday, October 8, 2003 8:47 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Rob S

If windex works to thin polly scale paint ,can you use windex to clean my air brush.


If that Polly Scale is acrylic then yes you can, but some people feel that over time the Windex can tarnish the chrome on the airbrush. I ues a mixture that a friend of mine told me about to clean my airbrush after using acrylics.
It is 2 parts distilled water, 1 part Windex and 1 part Simple Green. It works great.

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 8:15 PM
hi guys i sure could use some help. what is the best way to thin enamels for air brushing? i was painting my tank model and noticed some thin spots on it where the paint ran cause it was to thin. is there a set formula to follow? thanks Ziggy
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  • From: Hayward, CA
Posted by MikeV on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 9:29 PM
Hi Ziggy.

For enamels like Model Master I like to use a 2:1 ratio of paint to thinner with Model Master thinner.
I spray it about 12-15 psi through my Vega 1000 gravity fed airbrush.

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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