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Primer huh?
Posted by IceDragon122 on Sunday, July 29, 2007 8:57 AM

I have always been using Tamiya primer before i paint my enamels over it, but recently i have noticed that if i use white primer, then spray a darker color over it it turns lighter.  The white primer helps me to determine where i have sprayed and where i have not, but it seems to make darker colors lighter.

 Is this true or is it my imagination?  Im setting up a 1//48 B-17G and i will be painting it olive drab.  Should i prime gray or white? or will it make a difference?

Thx for any help!

 -Brian

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Posted by Alpha54 on Sunday, July 29, 2007 10:39 AM

I would prime with grey as OD is dark color and I use white mainly for bright colors such as red and yellow.

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  • From: Peoples Socialist Democratic Republic of Illinois
Posted by Triarius on Sunday, July 29, 2007 11:38 AM

No, it is not your imagination…it is much stranger than that…Mischief [:-,] (Just being silly!)

The ability of a paint to hide the color underneath it is called, oddly enough, "hide." It is a function of pigment load—the amount of particulate matter in the paint, and coating thickness. Darker color generally have better hide than light colors, but the degree of hide for a given color usually varies from brand to brand. Obviously, one solution to poor hide is to apply multiple coats and build up coating thickness.

I use a light to medium gray as a universal primer, except under colors that usually have very poor hide such as white (undercoat with silver), yellow (undercoat with white), and red (undercoat with silver, white, yellow, or a dark red, depending on effect desired.)

Ross Martinek A little strangeness, now and then, is a good thing… Wink

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Posted by IceDragon122 on Sunday, July 29, 2007 6:38 PM
 Triarius wrote:

No, it is not your imagination…it is much stranger than that…Mischief [:-,] (Just being silly!)

The ability of a paint to hide the color underneath it is called, oddly enough, "hide." It is a function of pigment load—the amount of particulate matter in the paint, and coating thickness. Darker color generally have better hide than light colors, but the degree of hide for a given color usually varies from brand to brand. Obviously, one solution to poor hide is to apply multiple coats and build up coating thickness.

I use a light to medium gray as a universal primer, except under colors that usually have very poor hide such as white (undercoat with silver), yellow (undercoat with white), and red (undercoat with silver, white, yellow, or a dark red, depending on effect desired.)

 

 You coat use silver as an undercoat for white!?

i have never heard of that!  cool i will try it and thx for the help with the primer!

-Brian

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Posted by Bgrigg on Sunday, July 29, 2007 6:49 PM

Silver reflects more light, which enhance the white. You'll be pleased with the results!

I actually "prime" all my aircraft with silver, even the OD ones. I figure real aircraft are silver under their paint, so why not? 

So long folks!

jwb
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  • From: Parkton, NC
Posted by jwb on Sunday, July 29, 2007 8:14 PM

You can use "hide" as an effect. Random sprays of white and black underneath a coat will give a slightly weathered, mottled look.

 

Jon Bius

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