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Need some advice on a sludge wash

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  • Member since
    September 2007
  • From: Crystal Lake, IL
Posted by firesmacker on Saturday, November 10, 2007 4:47 PM

Thanks for the input fellas. I'll give your suggestions a shot especially the part about hitting it with future first, I wouldn't have thought of that. I'm sure the results would have been brutal, and by "brutal" I mean horrible.

As I said before, I am still really new to this and I am trying to increase my skill set with each new build. This is my 4th aircraft to date and each time I try to ramp it up a little bit more. No sense in spending 20+ dollars a kit to keep doing the same thing over and over knowwhatimean Cool [8D]

 Jeff

DHM
  • Member since
    September 2007
Posted by DHM on Saturday, November 10, 2007 11:44 AM
Sign - Ditto [#ditto]I HATE sludge washes.  Seal the model with future, it and give it a normal wash, then seal with clear flat. 
  • Member since
    March 2004
  • From: Placerville, CA USA
Posted by Mark Joyce on Saturday, November 10, 2007 9:11 AM

As a preface, let me just say that I've not painted too many engines simply due to the type of airplane/kit I've build, so I'm sure there are others more knowledgeable in 'weathering' an engine properly. 

However, I've never had much success with the sludge wash, so mainly use an oil wash.  The tube of Winton Burnt Umber should be perfect for this (assuming it is an oil based and not an acrylic based paint).  If it's oil, just mix a little into Mineral Spirits or Turpenoid (also available at Michaels).  Since it's an oil wash, if you painted your engine with enamels you should seal it with an acrylic gloss clear, such as Future floor finish; otherwise the oil wash will eat through the enamel paint. 

Hope this helps,

Mark

Ignorance is bliss
cml
  • Member since
    March 2007
  • From: Brisbane, Australia
Posted by cml on Wednesday, November 7, 2007 10:06 PM

I thought i might also post a sludge wash question here...

 i've tried to make one using dishwashin liquid, gunze sangyo acrylic and water - what consistency am i looking for?

 whenever i try it, the dishwashing detergent makes the paint particles stick together.  if i add a little, the particles seem to separate from the water, so it's a very weird looking wash, where there are some large particles suspended in clear liquid (the water), and the more detergent i add, the more it turns into a solid lump, almost like blu tak.  i can paint this one, but it's so think you need a lot of paint to make a the wash.

 am i doing this right, or is gunze not the right paint to be using for a sludge wash? 

any tips appreciated.

 cml

Chris

  • Member since
    September 2007
  • From: Crystal Lake, IL
Need some advice on a sludge wash
Posted by firesmacker on Wednesday, November 7, 2007 6:29 PM

Hey guys,

 I am currently building the Hasegawa P-51D Mustang. It gives the option of showing the exposed engine, I am still pretty new to this so was a little leary but I figured that I would never get any better if I didn't at least try. I have spent many hours painstakingly painting the sparkplug cables and what not but it looks too "shiny and new" so to speak. I use enamal paints and I have a tube of Winton Burnt Umber paint in a tube that I grabbed from Michael's.

What I am looking for is some suggestions for a sludge wash that will look realistic and not "over-powering". every sludge wash I find seems to suggest using various acyrilcs on hand. I am looking for a suggestion for enamals.

 Any advice or suggestion would be greatly appreciated by this old and almost ready to retire young Sailor.

 Thanks in advance.

 Jeff

 

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