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  • Member since
    March 2007
  • From: OKC
Posted by stretchie on Sunday, November 18, 2007 12:39 AM
I've been sifting though all the info everyone is providing...you guys don't mess around, do you? Big Smile [:D] Hopefully I'll be able to decide something soon. Smile [:)]
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  • From: Hayward, CA
Posted by MikeV on Saturday, November 17, 2007 7:47 PM

 sizzlak wrote:
I run a regular room fan (10") blowing cool air at my compressor. It really keeps the compressor running cooler and reduces moisture in my moisture trap.

So do I. Wink [;)]

I installed this on my Badger Million-Air compressor when I got it to help cool it.

 

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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  • From: CA. all day
Posted by sizzlak on Saturday, November 17, 2007 7:25 PM
I run a regular room fan (10") blowing cool air at my compressor. It really keeps the compressor running cooler and reduces moisture in my moisture trap.
  • Member since
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  • From: Hayward, CA
Posted by MikeV on Saturday, November 17, 2007 2:23 PM

A tank will also extend the life of the compressor as heat is what destroys them and the more they run the hotter they get.

Pulsing is only a problem with diaphragm compressors and ones like the Paasche 500 pulse like crazy in my experience.  

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by IYAAYAS on Saturday, November 17, 2007 5:24 AM
Can I suggest removing the tank altogether?  I have never used an air tank.  My compressor discharges into a moister trap and then directly into my airhose.  Some will say pulsing is a problem that a tank eliminates.  IMO at the low pressure required for for airbrushing, pulsing should not be a problem.  Spend the money you intended on a new tank for a nice moister trap.
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    October 2007
  • From: CA. all day
Posted by sizzlak on Friday, November 16, 2007 11:03 PM

Your post got me searching for something to clean an airtank with, and wah lah.

http://www.por15.com/prodinfo.asp?grp=SSK&dept=1

For bigger tanks look at the Cycle Tank Repair Kit.

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  • From: OKC
Posted by stretchie on Thursday, November 15, 2007 12:36 AM

Again...thanks for all the info. As soon as I get to the weekend (Mon and Tues for meWink [;)]), I'm going to get to ordering. I need to paint. <shaking>  Smile [:)]

 

I'm itching to get the Big E finished and get back to my Fletcher/first-time-PE project. Smile [:)]

 

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  • From: Hayward, CA
Posted by MikeV on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 11:45 AM

I have one of these tanks connected to my Jun-Air compressor.

Buy the gauges, a drain cock, a pop-off safety valve and you are good to go.

http://www.kmwperformance.com/products/AirTanks.aspx 

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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  • From: Sunny Califorina
Posted by Sherman1111 on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 9:57 AM
Harborfreight sells a 5 gallon tank. I use it between my air compresser and airbrush. They have mail order if you do not have one close
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  • From: Neenah, WI
Posted by HawkeyeHobbies on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 9:21 AM

You have to tip the tank. Manufacturers do that for a reason. If the tank is dropped you don't want the drain valve to take the brunt of the impact. A fully pressurized tank dropped breaking the valve off can create serious injuries.

Another option, take the tank to a radiator repair shop. Some will acid etch out the rust then seal  it. They do it with gas tanks too. It might be a bit more expensive but if you are having troubles finding a tank, it might be one option.

Lastly, you could (if you have access to one) use a 40% off coupon from Hobby Lobby and pick yourself a whole new setup.

Gerald "Hawkeye" Voigt

http://hawkeyes-squawkbox.com/

 

 

"Its not the workbench that makes the model, it is the modeler at the workbench."

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  • From: OKC
Posted by stretchie on Tuesday, November 13, 2007 8:30 PM

The info is much appreciated. The tank was on a carpeted floor (between a wall and the desk) and the compressor was mounted on top of the tank. The tank has a drain, but it is built in such a way that there can be a full centimeter of water on the bottom of the tank and it won't drain out. (cheap cheap manufacturing Censored [censored])

since that tank is rusted and dirty, I need a new one. That is proving not so easy. Sad [:(] 

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  • From: Neenah, WI
Posted by HawkeyeHobbies on Tuesday, November 13, 2007 1:50 PM

The compressor shouldn't have any issues filling a larger tank. Just means you'll have more volume to work with. However the compressor will need more time to fill it. Putting a water trap between the two probably is asking for more headaches. Just be sure your tank has a drain and use it frequently.

Probably the easiest way to limit the amount of water vapor being ingested into the tank is to limit what is going into the compressor. Refrigerated air dryer. Or the poor mans way is to position the compressor where the air is coolest and least humid. Warm moist air rises, cold dry air settles. Place the compressor close to the floor but not actually on it. About a foot off the floor is best. A bare concrete floor will hold moisture even if the air is 'dry'. Also, make sure your tank drain is the lowest part of your system.  

Also I do a little extra step to keep water condensation levels low in my system. I will backflush the tank with alcohol. A cup of alcohol poured into the tank, swirled around then drained out will pick up much of the water and debris. Once you get as much as you can out the drain. Start the compressor and let the air flow through the tank and out into the atomosphere. DO THIS OUTSIDE if possible AND NO SMOKING or IGNITION SOURCES within several feet of the unit. Alcohol vapors can make one hell of an explosion. After a minute or so you can button it back up and start painting again.

Gerald "Hawkeye" Voigt

http://hawkeyes-squawkbox.com/

 

 

"Its not the workbench that makes the model, it is the modeler at the workbench."

  • Member since
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  • From: OKC
Replacement air tank
Posted by stretchie on Tuesday, November 13, 2007 12:16 PM

I have a small-ish tank...I think it is a .86 gallon. Its all rusted inside and full of dirt and crud.

The compressor feeding it is a TC-10. You can find them on a number of site. What you can't find is a replacement tank....or at least one that is bigger. I even called a couple places, incuding where I bought this one. I can get the same tank, or slightly bigger .92 gallon tank. 

What would be the reason to get...say....a 2 gallon tank??? Would it even work with the little compressor???

Ahhhh...the questions. Smile [:)]

This time, I plan on putting a water trap/filter between the tank and the compressor as well as a regulator/trap/filter after the tank. Overkill??? probably....but I've never been known for subtlety.  Big Smile [:D]

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