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Paint for F-86F Sabre

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djp
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Paint for F-86F Sabre
Posted by djp on Friday, February 15, 2008 4:44 PM
I am going to build a F-86 Sabre. I want to give it a metal looking finish (aluminum). I read a piece on Swannys website (using Krylon Gloss Black as a primer and Alclad-2 for the finish), but would like some other ideas as well. I have not used Alclad-2 paints and am relitively new to aircraft modeling. Is Alclad-2 paint similar to using enamel paint? Are there acrylic paints that give a good metal finish? Is a primer necessary for this type of finish? Any help is welcomed.
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Posted by HawkeyeHobbies on Friday, February 15, 2008 4:56 PM

Well yes there are acrylic NMF paints...my Talon paints for example. You can achieve anything from a super shiny finish to one of a rather plain one.


 

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Posted by Triarius on Friday, February 15, 2008 5:19 PM

As an objective opinion… Wink [;)]

Hawkeye's stuff is much easier to work with than Alclad, and both produce good finishes. 

Ross Martinek A little strangeness, now and then, is a good thing… Wink

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Posted by HawkeyeHobbies on Friday, February 15, 2008 5:30 PM
 Triarius wrote:

As an objective opinion… Wink [;)]

Hawkeye's stuff is much easier to work with than Alclad, and both produce good finishes. 

Not only does he truly offer an objective opinion...he's a hard charging bidder at club auctions...I lost several kits to him.Laugh [(-D] If I only would have been given my allowance before I went to the meeting!

Gerald "Hawkeye" Voigt

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"Its not the workbench that makes the model, it is the modeler at the workbench."

djp
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Posted by djp on Saturday, February 16, 2008 6:06 AM

Should I use a primer with this paint?  Does this paint need to be thinned before use? If so, what should it be thinned with?

 

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Posted by dahut on Saturday, February 16, 2008 9:02 AM

Objective opinions, eh? You guys crack me up! Some nice pluggage their, Gerald. The Talon stuff looks nice, although I have never been a big acrylic paint fan. Model paints should stink, in my opinion.

There is another product that has been around for ever that works well, too. They are along the lines of the SnJ products. Im referring to the Floquil metallics. They're old skool - but then there is no skool like oldskool, right?

The Floquils...

Are tenacaious, since they are "hot" laquer based products.

Can be handled without fear.

Can be masked readily after application.

Don't really need a primer, if you do a good job of surface prep.

Are buffable, from dull to shiny. (WARNING: Pet Peeve Alert: "Mirror shiny" is out, BTW. With a few exceptions, military service aircraft don't look like that, except at factory roll out. Even then, it's not a single shiny metal, but more like a hodgepodge of panels. Nothing is quite as disconcerting on an aircraft as a monotone, mirror shine. It ends up looking like a chromed toy.)

Come in a variety of shades and can be shaded with enamels, too.

Airbrush right from the bottle.

Stink like paint should.

Come in a large bottle at a value price.

Like I said, old skool. You'll find them in the railroad section of places that sell such stuff.

Cheers, David
djp
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Posted by djp on Saturday, February 16, 2008 10:13 AM
Thanks folks! I guess I have a bit to think about.
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  • From: Peoples Socialist Democratic Republic of Illinois
Posted by Triarius on Saturday, February 16, 2008 12:17 PM
 dahut wrote:

Objective opinions, eh?

Jerry never said or implied that his opinion was objective.

Mine was. I don't blow sunshine at anyone, and my professional integrity is beyond question. I have the credentials to prove it. It's a shame you can't read my write-up on his last "beta" paint.

 dahut wrote:
The Floquils...

Are tenacaious, since they are "hot" laquer based products.

Can be handled without fear.

The second statement is essentially a contradiction of the preceding statement, and false if you are speaking of the level of hazard in their use. If you are speaking of the durability of the cured coating, it is correct because the lacquer essentially dissolves the plastic surface to which it is applied. The only way to remove the coating is to sand it down to bare plastic.

Ross Martinek A little strangeness, now and then, is a good thing… Wink

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  • From: Glue and paint smeared bench, in La La Land
Posted by dahut on Saturday, February 16, 2008 2:47 PM

Hey, Ross. I was speaking in jest about the objectivity of the comments, in general. It's called tongue-in-cheek; wink, wink, nudged, nudge. Big Smile [:D]

I suggested something else the poster might want to look at, i.e., the Floquil line. This isn't the Hawkeye Hobbies Promotional Hour last time I checked. I'm sure Gerald would agree that he isn't the only supplier of useful products out there. No foul intended, none called.

As for your personal resume... well, Margaret Thatcher used to say, "any lady who has to tell you she is one... isn't." It sounds pompous, my friend and coming from an expert like you, that is never good. I'm certain you didn't mean it that way.

As for the lacquer based paint being safe, well it's VOC-based solvent and I expect to handle it appropriately - as well as have it stink. Remember, I like paint to smell, well - like paint. My choice. The handling part was in reference to once it cures... safe to handle with fingers, as in it not coming off easily, and so on. I should have been more specific.

Now, loosen up, brother; jeeeez!  

Cheers, David
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