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    January 2007
Posted by Gigatron on Tuesday, March 4, 2008 8:20 AM
 Bgrigg wrote:
 Gigatron wrote:

I know from personal experience ( Banged Head [banghead] ) that turpenoid will disolve acrylics.  It's like acrylic thinner.  I now use Future to protect the acrylics before using an oil/turpenoid wash.

-Fred

Considering that Future IS an acrylic, I'm surprised to find you are enjoying success! 

 

Yeah, me too Laugh [(-D]

I originally had used thinned oil as a wash over regular tamiya acrylics (which had been dry for well over a week).  I went to go brush up some excess wash and the tamiya came right off like I had used ammonia.

Well, that was a frustrating expreience.  Thankfully, it was in a recessed area that nobody ever looks in to.  So before I did the opposite side, I brushed on some Future and let that cure for 3 days.  When I did the oil/turpenoid wash again, nothing came off.  And since then, I've put down a Future barrier before using an oil/turp wash and haven't had anymore problems.

-Fred

 

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    August 2006
  • From: Neenah, WI
Posted by HawkeyeHobbies on Tuesday, March 4, 2008 7:41 AM
 Bgrigg wrote:
 Gigatron wrote:

I know from personal experience ( Banged Head [banghead] ) that turpenoid will disolve acrylics.  It's like acrylic thinner.  I now use Future to protect the acrylics before using an oil/turpenoid wash.

-Fred

Considering that Future IS an acrylic, I'm surprised to find you are enjoying success! 

Formulation is different. Most acrylic paints don't have any 'protectant' properties to them. Future is designed to be a 'barrier' on floor to protect it from dirt and mild abrasion. 

Just as I do not include 'etchants' in my paints, I do have 'leveling' and 'hardners' which make for a smooth durable finish. It is all about what you want your paint to achieve. 

Gerald "Hawkeye" Voigt

http://hawkeyes-squawkbox.com/

 

 

"Its not the workbench that makes the model, it is the modeler at the workbench."

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    May 2005
  • From: Left forever
Posted by Bgrigg on Monday, March 3, 2008 10:21 PM
 Gigatron wrote:

I know from personal experience ( Banged Head [banghead] ) that turpenoid will disolve acrylics.  It's like acrylic thinner.  I now use Future to protect the acrylics before using an oil/turpenoid wash.

-Fred

Considering that Future IS an acrylic, I'm surprised to find you are enjoying success! 

So long folks!

  • Member since
    January 2007
Posted by Gigatron on Monday, March 3, 2008 10:06 PM

I know from personal experience ( Banged Head [banghead] ) that turpenoid will disolve acrylics.  It's like acrylic thinner.  I now use Future to protect the acrylics before using an oil/turpenoid wash.

-Fred

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    October 2007
  • From: Wisconsin
Posted by DD-557 on Monday, March 3, 2008 7:11 PM

Gerald, many thanks for running a test. I was hoping the question would catch your interest too.

I'm just getting back to our hobby after a long absence and I need to get a kit just for testing this kind of thing, maybe even a cockpit kit, if there is one on the market, that I could use to learn to shade, dry brush, etc. before I start on the AM F3F-2 that got me fired up to get started again. Love those pre and WWII USN aircraft!  So, I'll start looking for a less expensive kit that I won't mind making mistakes on as I school.

Thanks again for the testing and I look forward to hearing about the acrylic test.

Patrick

PS I think the learning is as much fun as the doing :>) One thing for sure is it makes the doing more fun.

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    August 2006
  • From: Neenah, WI
Posted by HawkeyeHobbies on Monday, March 3, 2008 3:50 PM

Patrick your question even sparked my attention. So I ran down into the workshop to give it a try for myself. With a dab of artists oils (generic) and a damped brush in my thinner I mixed the two together on my benchtop 'working jar' of thinner...then applied some to something handy on the bench. It worked!

Hopefully others will confirm this...and I was using it over a wing done with MM enamel. I'll try the acylics later. Testing anything first on scrap or hanger queen is prudent with any new idea.

Gerald "Hawkeye" Voigt

http://hawkeyes-squawkbox.com/

 

 

"Its not the workbench that makes the model, it is the modeler at the workbench."

  • Member since
    October 2007
  • From: Wisconsin
Hawkeye's thinner & Oil paint
Posted by DD-557 on Monday, March 3, 2008 3:00 PM

Does anyone know or has tried Hawkeye's paint thinner with oils. I would like to try the oils for shading mainly internal parts of the aircraft. I do not know how the artist's turpentine or a turpentine substitutes like Natural Turpenoid mixed with the oil would react with our enamels or maybe even acrylics. So, if oils are compatible with Hawkeye's thinner then that's one less solvent I need to worry about.

Patrick

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