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MM Black thinning trouble.

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  • Member since
    September 2006
  • From: Newfoundland, Canada
Posted by ZzZGuy on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 12:03 PM
 Wulf wrote:

OK, I think I know what you are talking about now. Sounds like the paint is drying before it hits the surface. In turn, you are getting a 'gritty' texture to the paint. Is this the case? If so, I would switch your thinner to 70% isopropyl . 90% alcohol will "dehydrate" the suspension solution in the paint and causes it to dry out too quick. This will result in a clogged airbrush tip and a rough paint job. Also, you may want to reduce your operating psi to 10-12 psi.

Liquitex brand makes a product called slo-dri. You can get it at any art store or Hobby Lobby. Adding some to the paint will increase the dry time and eliminate premature drying and avoid a rough finish. 

A high grit sand paper or pad (8000 grit) will smooth and polish any rough surface. Just make sure the paint is fully dry first.

Hope this helps....

Andy 

Thanks Smile [:)]

 I will try the 70%  isopropyl and distilled watter and see how that works. I also didn't realize that 90+% isopropyl will cause quicker dry times and does explain unrelated problems i've been having with my AB.

 I have also switched to nearly 100% hand brushing due to a lot of traveling in which I still continue to work on models. The problems I mentioned above did not involve a AB, I noticed the problem while string the paint with the 99% isopropyl in a small plastic paint tray. 

 Also on a slightly unrelated note, i find tamiya acrylics horrible for hand brushing even when i apply a unthinned coat that I let dry for 3 days, with a primed surface and no finger grease involved. It is just so damn easy to strip the previous layer of paint with a brush that I have to apply a clear coat in between (which works well). It also drys to the touch so fast I have no rush the painting to avoid getting little balls of semi dried paint after a brush stroke. MM acrylics have no such problems and works very similar to humbrol enamels but no nasty chemical fumes. For AB i find tamiya to work well. 


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  • Member since
    February 2006
  • From: Southeast Louisiana
Posted by Wulf on Monday, April 21, 2008 7:25 PM

OK, I think I know what you are talking about now. Sounds like the paint is drying before it hits the surface. In turn, you are getting a 'gritty' texture to the paint. Is this the case? If so, I would switch your thinner to 70% isopropyl or distilled water instead. 90% alcohol will "dehydrate" the suspension solution in the paint and causes it to dry out too quick. This will result in a clogged airbrush tip and a rough paint job. Also, you may want to reduce your operating psi to 10-12 psi.

Liquitex brand makes a product called slo-dri. You can get it at any art store or Hobby Lobby. Adding some to the paint will increase the dry time and eliminate premature drying and avoid a rough finish. 

A high grit sand paper or pad (8000 grit) will smooth and polish any rough surface. Just make sure the paint is fully dry first.

Hope this helps....

Andy 

  • Member since
    March 2003
  • From: Virginia
Posted by Wingman_kz on Monday, April 21, 2008 5:48 PM

Not really qualified to answer your question but I hate to see someone left hanging, I know the feeling...

I've only used MM Acryl a few times. Bought several bottles of it a few months ago and ran a little through the airbrush before getting sidetracked. I got the same reaction as you with flat black, flat and gloss white. The other colors seemed to thin normally but I did get a lot of tip dry. I switched from 91% alcohol to distilled water and didn't have any problems or nearly as much tip dry. Also got a bottle of MM Acryl thinner but haven't had a chance to try it yet. I have no idea why the different colors reacted the way they did.

Tony

            

  • Member since
    February 2006
  • From: Southeast Louisiana
Posted by Wulf on Monday, April 21, 2008 5:42 PM

I'm at a loss. I use MM flat black all the time and never had this problem. I use the 70% isopropyl instead of the 90% though. I thin mine about 40-50% thinner. I would make sure the paint is well stirred. Other than that, I'm not sure. Sorry......

Andy 

  • Member since
    September 2006
  • From: Newfoundland, Canada
Posted by ZzZGuy on Sunday, April 20, 2008 8:59 PM

Ah yes, forgot to mention that I don't have access to MM acrylic thinner.

 

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  • Member since
    September 2006
  • From: Newfoundland, Canada
MM Black thinning trouble.
Posted by ZzZGuy on Saturday, April 19, 2008 8:21 PM

Hello.

My current problem is that when i try to thin MM acrylic flat black it does what is best decribed as forming thouands of tiny clumps that look somewhat like sand (but smaller). MM acrylic classic black forums one big glob. I stir vigorously before putting into a paint try and when i add the thinner.

I use 99% Isopropyl alcohol to thinn MM acrylics with great success except for black for some reason. 

 

It would be much appreacheated if someone could tell me what to use to thin MM acrylic black and perhaps a explanation if you have one. 

 

Thanks. 

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