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jugs instrament decal/help
Posted by rabbiteatsnake on Monday, September 29, 2008 2:52 AM
Just got Hasegawa 1/32nd P47D, it features a beutiful instrament panel molded in fairly proud relief.  Also an exellent decal to go on it, therein lies the rub will I be able to get the film to snuggle down on this?.  I've never encountered this before and I'm somewhat sceptical that care and solvents can pull it off.  I could paint them, but that = time + frayed nerves+results that optimistically are 85-90% as good as the transfer.  What to do?.
The devil is in the details...and somtimes he's in my sock drawer. On the bench. Airfix 1/24 bf109E scratch conv to 109 G14AS MPC1/24 ju87B conv to 87G Rev 1/48 B17G toF Trump 1/32 f4u-1D and staying a1D Scratch 1/16 TigerII.
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Posted by smokinguns3 on Monday, September 29, 2008 4:15 PM
it will snuggle down just fine with decal solvent.
Rob I think i can I think i can
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Posted by Panzer_Blitz on Monday, September 29, 2008 6:15 PM

The decal will "settle down" using a good solvent, but it may need a little help first.

set the decal in place and let it dry completely, then use a good decal solvent such as Microscale Micro sol. This should soften the decal enough and allow it to settle around the raised areas. Let this dry completely again and if you see any areas that have air bubbles, or it doesn't settle completely, re-apply the solvent. When the decal is wet you should see any remaining air bubbles. Now using a SHARP hobby knife, poke some holes through the decal. the solvent should bleed through the holes and allow the decal to form around all the raised detail.

You may have to try this a few times, but it should work great.....Be VERY careful if you try pressing the decal into the area with a damp cloth or paper towel.....you may mess up the decal all together !

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Posted by rabbiteatsnake on Monday, September 29, 2008 9:46 PM
Thanks  if you're confident, I am to. Do you think micro set is viable how do thy differ in practice?.
The devil is in the details...and somtimes he's in my sock drawer. On the bench. Airfix 1/24 bf109E scratch conv to 109 G14AS MPC1/24 ju87B conv to 87G Rev 1/48 B17G toF Trump 1/32 f4u-1D and staying a1D Scratch 1/16 TigerII.
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Posted by Panzer_Blitz on Tuesday, September 30, 2008 12:39 PM

Use micro set first....place some on the area you want the decal on your model....just enough to wet the area

After that dries, apply the micro sol with a soft paint brush.

Microscale Micro set is a very mild acid that helps set the decal.....you can actually use white vinegar, it's the same thing.....smell a bottle of micro set !

Micro sol softens the decal and allows it to settle around details....if your decal looks like it's melting when you apply the micro sol, that means it's working. So don't panic ! Just don't touch it until it's completely dry or you may end up ruining your new decal.

Jerry

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  • From: Iowa
Posted by Hans von Hammer on Wednesday, October 1, 2008 12:13 PM

Frankly, I think the detail relief is way outta scale... I'd sand it almost flush and then apply the decal... With heavy relief and no decals, I usually shoot the panels in flat white enamel, fairly heavily, but in two or three light coats, letting it dry in between coats, but not so much as to fill in the relief. Then hit it with black Sharpie, then a few swipes with super-fine sandpaper to remove the black from the relief and let the white show through..

Revell 1/32 Spitfire Panel:

 

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Posted by rabbiteatsnake on Saturday, October 18, 2008 1:27 AM
 Hans von Hammer wrote:

Frankly, I think the detail relief is way outta scale... I'd sand it almost flush and then apply the decal... With heavy relief and no decals, I usually shoot the panels in flat white enamel, fairly heavily, but in two or three light coats, letting it dry in between coats, but not so much as to fill in the relief. Then hit it with black Sharpie, then a few swipes with super-fine sandpaper to remove the black from the relief and let the white show through..

Revell 1/32 Spitfire Panel:

You know Hans I've tried that very thing once, looked like crap maybe I did'nt use enough white or I was too impatiant and scraped too early, never the less your spit panel shows me its a trick I should revisit. Thanks

The devil is in the details...and somtimes he's in my sock drawer. On the bench. Airfix 1/24 bf109E scratch conv to 109 G14AS MPC1/24 ju87B conv to 87G Rev 1/48 B17G toF Trump 1/32 f4u-1D and staying a1D Scratch 1/16 TigerII.
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