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Critic my model
Posted by Arespontus on Wednesday, April 14, 2010 12:06 PM

Hello

I painted a camoflage design on my Mig 29A. 

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/B_7cJqc1x9fJKdnza68GSlTxH2wPI-vzKFupOIO-7TQ?feat=directlink

However the dark blue paint slipped under the masking tape in some area's. What do you think?

Should I remask the model and spray paint with the light grey.  

Or does the model just look weathered in  the area's the paint ran.

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/B_7cJqc1x9fJKdnza68GSlTxH2wPI-vzKFupOIO-7TQ?feat=directlink

Thank you

Scott

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Posted by Arespontus on Wednesday, April 14, 2010 12:27 PM

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/BsMAoVhf8PuMqmym-rMwllTxH2wPI-vzKFupOIO-7TQ?feat=directlink

Here is another photo

Scott

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  • From: Rothesay, NB Canada
Posted by VanceCrozier on Wednesday, April 14, 2010 12:33 PM

Hey Scott, it's hard to tell from the photo but it looks like you have a bit of a raised edge where the tape was too. I think I'd use a verrrrry fine grit sandpaper to try & bring those edges down firts (if they really are there!), and then go back with a touch-up coat of the light gray.

Was this airbrushed? It sort of looks like the paint was too thin - but there are other on here that are much better at troubleshooting airbrushed paint than I am!

On the bench: Airfix 1/72 Wildcat; Airfix 1/72 Vampire T11; Airfix 1/72 Fouga Magister

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 14, 2010 12:59 PM

I'll critique it when you post photos...

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Posted by Arespontus on Wednesday, April 14, 2010 1:10 PM

Yes this was airbrushed. I used a Light blue first and then applied the Medium blue on top

I applied about 3 coats of the medium blue(the darker blue).  maybe that's why it seems raised?

I'm hoping once I coat with Future floor finish and then with a flat coat It won't seem as raised ( I could be wrong)

Scott

 

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  • From: Rothesay, NB Canada
Posted by VanceCrozier on Wednesday, April 14, 2010 1:32 PM

awww c'mon Manny, just cut & paste those links from his post - you don't need lips for that!

Arespontus - I'm guessing three coats was too many, especially with a dark colour over a light colour, coverage should be pretty good. It looks like the paint was very thin & ran under your tape masks, maybe your air pressure was a little too high & paint was forced under your masks?

Future will probably hide a little bit of the raised edge, but I'd still do a little sanding work first. If you're worried about the surrounding paint, put a post-it note on each side of the raised area before you sand it. And use very fine modeling sandpaper, something like 4000 grit.

On the bench: Airfix 1/72 Wildcat; Airfix 1/72 Vampire T11; Airfix 1/72 Fouga Magister

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Posted by batai37 on Wednesday, April 14, 2010 3:08 PM

Leaving the masking on too long after painting can cause those raised lines as well. And I wouldn't rely on Future covering that up. You're essentially just adding another layer of paint with the Future, and it isn't particularly effective at hiding imperfections like that in the paint job in my experience.

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Posted by Arespontus on Wednesday, April 14, 2010 6:43 PM

Hi guy's

I sat down and remasked the dark blue and will airbrush the light blue parts of the model.

I took a few pictures of what I've done.

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/hYHeKMmhNYmGSsBgdeXZkFTxH2wPI-vzKFupOIO-7TQ?feat=directlink

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/PFZEGlsiMSqxK1_7xwemSFTxH2wPI-vzKFupOIO-7TQ?feat=directlink

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/YJkZhEHxKhnWBaFjKu-JUlTxH2wPI-vzKFupOIO-7TQ?feat=directlink

and

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/W6AC0J-NtSYIBaD2bzf4CVTxH2wPI-vzKFupOIO-7TQ?feat=directlink

I am going to airbrush later tonight.

Hopefully this will blend better than what I had before.

Thanks

Scott

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  • From: Rothesay, NB Canada
Posted by VanceCrozier on Thursday, April 15, 2010 1:37 PM

So did you do a little sanding to reduce the raised edge? Looking forward to the update,

On the bench: Airfix 1/72 Wildcat; Airfix 1/72 Vampire T11; Airfix 1/72 Fouga Magister

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Posted by Arespontus on Thursday, April 15, 2010 1:57 PM

Hi VanceCrozier:

I didn't use any sandpaper. I was worried that I would make it worse than it already was. I'm just a rookie at this

I did airbrush and there doesn't seem to be a raised edge anymore.

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/neW0zCJeLSW40cFDyekfoVTxH2wPI-vzKFupOIO-7TQ?feat=directlink

I will try the 4000 grit when I can get out to my hobby shop.

Thanks

Scott

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  • From: Rothesay, NB Canada
Posted by VanceCrozier on Thursday, April 15, 2010 2:08 PM

Just keep at it, you'll get the hang of it! You may have added enough new (light) paint to sort of even out the edges some. And for the sandpaper, I guess "sanding film" would be the more appropriate description, I think most of the suppliers refer to it that way. The higher the number, the finer the grit is, and you'll be less likely to remove something unintentionally!

On the bench: Airfix 1/72 Wildcat; Airfix 1/72 Vampire T11; Airfix 1/72 Fouga Magister

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Posted by Arespontus on Thursday, April 15, 2010 2:20 PM

Thank you VanceCrozier

I have one more question
When you look at the last pic I uploaded, you can see little scratch marks in the dark blue camoflage areas.
I would like to fix these. How would you do it?
I was thinking about using the dark blue mixed with rubbing alcohol and apply it via brush to the little scratched areas.
Would this be a mistake and if it is? how would you do it
Scott

  • Member since
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  • From: Rothesay, NB Canada
Posted by VanceCrozier on Thursday, April 15, 2010 2:39 PM

Hmm, for little scratches like that... If you're already airbrushing, that would be ideal I suppose, but I know the deal... set up, mix the paint, clean the airbrush, clean up etc. ... it can be a pain! (I live in a townhouse with no "modeling room" like a lot of the gang here, so anytime I'm working on something I need to hijack the kitchen table!!) If you do go that route, you can use a sheet of bristol board with a small hole cut in it to make sure you're not overspraying.

But, If you want to stick with brushes, make sure you have allowed the airbrushed coat to dry at least a day. I know acrylics are dry to the touch after a few hours, but if you put thinner (alcohol) on paint that is too fresh, it will start peeling & you'll have other problems. So with that being said, go ahead & use the paint brush, but you don't need the paint super-thin, or it may run & not stay in the scratched area. I'd use a small brush & paint in the scratches as carefully as possible. Leave it to dry again, then use the absolute finest grit of sanding film you can find. The area you brushpainted will likely have a little bump - sanding will help even it out with the airbrushed areas. Just take your time, and it'll work.

On the bench: Airfix 1/72 Wildcat; Airfix 1/72 Vampire T11; Airfix 1/72 Fouga Magister

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