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Old decals won't slide off paper.

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  • Member since
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  • From: Spanaway, WA
Old decals won't slide off paper.
Posted by aagranata on Tuesday, May 15, 2012 5:06 PM

I'm trying to finish up my old Revell IM-99 Bomarc (History Makers boxing).  Since aftermarket decals are not an option, I have to use the old kit decals.  They are old and clearly prone to cracking.  I've coated the decals in a few layers of liquid decal film and that seems to have fixed the cracking problem, but now I can't get the decals to slide off the backing paper.  They refuse to even budge!  I have already ruined the decals for the missile and have resorted to the spares box, but I can't do that with the decals that go on the launcher.  Any ideas??

One good hour working on a model erases 8 bad hours at work!!
  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Wednesday, May 16, 2012 8:57 AM

These days I always scan all my decals before trying to use them.  That way, if I have any problems, I can at least try to reproduce them with inkjet decals.   If there is no white in the decal, I can generally make it work okay.  However, decals containing white or very light colored areas can be a real pain.  Still, in absence of obtaining new ones, that is often the only option.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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    October 2008
  • From: SE Pennsylvania
Posted by padakr on Wednesday, May 16, 2012 10:25 AM

It might be that the decal film is adhering to the backing paper that the original decals didn't cover.  Try trimming very close to the decal image, inside the original decal film border.

Paul

  • Member since
    May 2006
  • From: Spanaway, WA
Posted by aagranata on Wednesday, May 16, 2012 8:35 PM

That was the problem, Paul!  Thanks for the tip.Bow Down

One good hour working on a model erases 8 bad hours at work!!
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  • From: Longmont, Colorado
Posted by Cadet Chuck on Wednesday, May 16, 2012 10:17 PM

When old decals won't release from the backing paper, I let them sit a long time in warm water, maybe 1/2 hour or so.  If they still won't release, I think they are a lost cause. 

Gimme a pigfoot, and a bottle of beer...

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    August 2005
  • From: Sydney, Australia
Posted by Phil_H on Thursday, May 17, 2012 1:51 AM

Sometimes, this can happen if the decals have suffered water damage or been exposed to high humidity (activating the adhesive).

If you soak the decals for an extended period (as mentioned above), you may lose much of the adhesive that makes them stick to the model's surface.

Normally. if this happens, no amount of setting solution will help the decals stick (with the exception of Gunze's Mr Mark Setter, which contains a mild adhesive) if there is insufficient adhesive.  

If you are able to get the decals free of the backing paper, you may wish to consider applying a very thinly diluted solution of white glue to the decal location before applying the decal to help it stick.

  • Member since
    June 2010
  • From: Australia
Posted by OctaneOrange on Friday, June 29, 2012 1:07 AM

i had some that wouldn't slide off, i think the backing glue had dried out making the paper basically sandpaper. after soaking for a long time, i eventually got the decals off by lifting them up with tweezers, rather than sliding them off.

  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Saturday, June 30, 2012 9:08 AM

A warning on this to folks trying to make their own (inkjet) decals.  When sealing them with a clear overcoat, this must be done before cutting the decal close to the printed graphics.  Also, make sure you do not get the clearcoat on the back of the decal.  Getting clearcoat on either the edge or the back of the decal inhibits water from soaking the decal.  So leave enough of a border that you can trim the decal before soaking and that trimming will get rid of sealed edges.  And coating the whole sheet instead of individual graphics makes it easier to keep the sealant off the back.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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