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Guillows Decals
Posted by Sailing_Dutchman on Wednesday, January 24, 2018 3:10 AM

Anyone having trouble with Guillow's decals? I am finishing up my Cessna 180, but the decals are a real pain. When I took them out of the water they shattered, but the pieces were big enough that I was able to get them on, however I can't find any way to get them to stick. I tried MicroSol, MicroSet, Solveaset, TS-80, acetone, dimethyl ether, butyl acetate, naptha, MEK, and Tamiya extra thin glue. They have resisted everything. What do I try next, CA?Stick out tongue

   

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  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Wednesday, January 24, 2018 8:35 AM

Both the shattering, and the lack of adhesion are signs of old decals.  Decals do have a shelf life.  Old decals are a problem not just with Guillows, but anyone's kit depending on the dealer you bought it from or how long it has been in your stash.  You now need to contact Estes, or whoever now owns Guillows and get a new set.

Whenever I start a build now, I scan the decal sheet with a scanner hooked to my computer.  That way, if the decals are bad, and no other fix method works, I may be able to make new ones on inkjet decal paper.

Next, I try a decal from the sheet that I will not need for the model. It may be a decal for an option I am not using.  Or, many decal sheets have brand and kit identification numbers, that are actually decals too, but not used for the build. I try to apply one of these to a piece of scrap. If it shatters, I coat the whole decal sheet with decal film.  Micro Scale makes a very good decal film.

If adhesion is a problem, it can often be fixed by applying a diluted white glue/water mix, about 1:1 to the back of the decal.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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  • From: Towson MD
Posted by gregbale on Wednesday, January 24, 2018 8:55 AM

Future acrylic can also be used as an adhesive for stubborn decals. The 'trick' is to use as small an amount as practicable, so it will 'tack' fairly quickly. If you use too much or flood the surface, some decals will curl, simply multiplying the problem.

Greg

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Posted by Sailing_Dutchman on Wednesday, January 24, 2018 11:51 AM

Thank you I will try that next. I have a laser printer, so I can't make my own. Where do you find the decal film? I have not seen it at my LHS.

   

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  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Thursday, January 25, 2018 7:40 AM

Actually, they do make laser decal paper too.  Micro Mark sells both kinds.  If your printer is black and white, you can pick up an inkjet these days for less than fifty bucks, so it isn't an expensive tool even if all you do is print decals with it.

If you have never done computer printed decals before, look through back posts in this forum for tips.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by UnwaryPaladin on Thursday, January 25, 2018 9:50 PM

You can order them from Guillows, they sell them at a very reasonable price. Putting them on tissue is tricky, you have to really seal the tissue. I use a gloss acrylic spray. Keep in mind it will add weight, if that's a concern for contest models.

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