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New decal product-trials
Posted by GMorrison on Saturday, May 12, 2018 12:41 AM

So I have printed laser print decals for a while using Woodlands Scenic film. Always went well. No smearing, sealed well, reasonably thin.

Now that I am working from home and have traded my $ 10,000 Canon printer that served an office of 15 for a $ 300 Brother all-in-one, I've been trying new parameters.

My Ink Jet Brother performs well on paper.

First I went with Testors paper, both white and clear.

The printing on white is "OK". But it has totally failed to work on clear.

I just bought a paper called "Papilion", after reading reviews.

It came out of the printer looking good, at both "normal" and "dense" settings.

I'm waiting 8 hours to seal it with Testors Decal Bonder.

Might do a second coat again tomorrow.

I will keep you posted.

  • Member since
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  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Saturday, May 12, 2018 9:41 AM

I also have used the Papillion paper.  It is okay.  I prefer the paper from Micro Mark- try it.  Works great, and I order from MM frequently, so I can just add some decal paper to my order.

BTW, my problem with coating the Claria inks seems to be solved by waiting a week for it to fully dry, though it is hard to predict when I will need to make some replacements- sure slows down work at times :-(

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by GMorrison on Saturday, May 12, 2018 12:09 PM

Sorry to report the ink ran a little, enough to spoil the decal.

I had tried 1/2 high density ink and 1/2 medium density.

The high density ran a little more. One parameter solved.

I'm going to wait longer, as you say. I also am interested in any suggestions for a bonder. The Testors might not be compatible with my ink.

Sounds like I have a week to order something.

 

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Saturday, May 19, 2018 2:46 PM

Success!

I waited four or five days for the ink to dry. Then I was really sparing with the bonder spray. I made two coats over the course of a day.

Now I just need to clear coat, and stick on the breakables.

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    May, 2013
  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Saturday, May 19, 2018 3:47 PM

Glad that worked out.

The decals look great!

BTW, I didn't know a laser printer would work on decal film. Learn something every day.

-Greg

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Posted by GMorrison on Saturday, May 19, 2018 4:11 PM

Thanks, Greg.

its important to pick either laser print or ink jet compatible. I used to have a laser printer, now an ink jet.

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  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Sunday, May 20, 2018 9:10 AM

GMorrison
I used to have a laser printer, now an ink jet.

Right, I saw that but my reply was worded in such a way you'd think I missed it.

I've been watching you, Don and maybe a couple others here work with decals. I should try it. You and Don make it look pretty easy.

My main concern is I don't think my scanner is vary good.

 

-Greg

  • Member since
    November, 2009
  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Sunday, May 20, 2018 11:25 AM

GMorrison

Thanks, Greg.

its important to pick either laser print or ink jet compatible. I used to have a laser printer, now an ink jet.

 

I have both, but the laser is black only.  I had used it in the past because the laser was easier to seal.  However, the inkjet I have now is so much higher resolution I now use it for every decal use.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

  • Member since
    November, 2009
  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Sunday, May 20, 2018 11:31 AM

Greg

 

 
GMorrison
I used to have a laser printer, now an ink jet.

 

Right, I saw that but my reply was worded in such a way you'd think I missed it.

I've been watching you, Don and maybe a couple others here work with decals. I should try it. You and Don make it look pretty easy.

My main concern is I don't think my scanner is vary good.

 

 

Give it a try, Greg. Print out the result on glossy photo paper (cheaper than inkjet decal paper) for a test.  I find a lot of useful stuff on line with a google image search, including even decal sheets others have scanned.  I do scan the decals of new kits I start, in case of ruining one of the supplied ones.  But for scratch work or different livery, it is getting really easy to get images online, or to create your own with a graphics program.  Or, if you have a decent digital camera, you can copy decal sheets with those.  But then you do have to correct the size.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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