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decal paper
Posted by Redironrob on Monday, October 21, 2019 8:53 AM

I am after some self adhesive waterslide decal paper.

 

A company I use supplies their decals in the following format

The backing paper describes itself as Inkjet/Clear waterslide decal paper it is the usual sort of backing. However there is a clear plastic film covering the images. When removed the images are adhesive and are applied  as a dry-rub (?) and then the backing sheet is moisturised before removal. Decal solutions are then applied.

 

The image supplier Little Big Men Studio (run by Stephen Hales) have declined to share the maker of the paper.

 

I do not know if the process means that he prints onto the paper in reverse and then applies a clear top sheet or whether everything is printed ‘as is’.

 

I find the method of application suits my modelling skills. Very small images can be applied with precision to the target area.

 

Do any modellers out there know of such a decal procedure and importantly know of any products as describe above.

 

Thanks

 

Robin

 

 

PS this message keeps getting stolen by a gremlin in the system- this is my 4th attempt!

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, October 21, 2019 10:07 AM

Interesting site. Every step of the process does not seem to me to be anything I've ever heard as do-it-yourself. EDIT- a number of Youtubes.

There are a lot of custom dry transfer sources on line, a quick look shows.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by Redironrob on Wednesday, October 23, 2019 5:08 AM

I have looked on-line.

But nothing quite like this.

And I am unclear how one could do this 'DIY'

 

Perhaps you could direct me to the sorces you know of.

 

Cheers

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  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Wednesday, October 23, 2019 9:50 AM

I still prefer the type of inkjet paper where you print on the front side.  Let's face it, the term decal paper is a misnomer- you print the decal on a transparent film, not on the actual paper.

I then need to stock two types, the clear and the white backed film.  I usually use those sold by Micro Mark or from Bare Metal foil.  Their films are pretty good stuff, and reasonably priced.

I find the vinyl type, whether you print on front or back side, too inflexible to cover compound curves.  I also find the vinyl film a bit too thick and harder to hide the edge.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by jgeratic on Wednesday, October 23, 2019 9:56 AM

Maybe this, Korean company and has a product 'Inkjet Rub-off Transfer Paper'

http://sunnyscopa.com/index.html

 

... and are found at  Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/Sunnyscopa-Inkjet-Rub-off-Transfer-sheets/dp/B07945RL33

 

Certainly am curious how resilient the printed product is when handling, but I think it shares the same problem as regular waterslide decal paper - inkjets do not print white ink.

 

regards,

Jack

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Posted by Redironrob on Wednesday, October 23, 2019 3:06 PM

Thanks Jack.

That is getting there but not quite what (I thought) I wanted.

 

The paper that LBM uses seems such an obvious development that hunting it down should be quite easy but it is turning into a mystery!

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  • From: ON, Canada
Posted by jgeratic on Wednesday, October 23, 2019 5:02 PM

I think you will discover, even after finding the type of film/paper you desire, there is still the problem of printing white.  Some have overcome this by purposely filling a cartridge with white ink, but the way printers are designed for the general public use, this will result in printing a sheet twice (referred to as  a double pass).  This then brings issues of colour registration.

You could avoid this by preparing the decal image area on the model with white paint.   This is all, of course, assuming you are considering making your own decals?

 

regards,

Jack

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, October 23, 2019 6:39 PM

Counting the seconds until Graham G. heaves to and announces that we are all amateurs...

But you are correct. And decaling over white is a little tricky because the area of the image that is to show the white is hard to get truly clear. But, it can be done.

 

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Thursday, October 24, 2019 9:05 AM

GMorrison

Counting the seconds until Graham G. heaves to and announces that we are all amateurs...

But you are correct. And decaling over white is a little tricky because the area of the image that is to show the white is hard to get truly clear. But, it can be done.

 

 

I find the films from MM andBMF very transparent with no shade of tint in areas not printed on.  Using a white decal under a clear one has worked quite well for me.

 

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, October 24, 2019 1:43 PM

True enough. Where I struggle is not having my own drawing program. Too many years of having folks work for me who can do that.

So I depend on scannable or digital art that's color over white. Printing from graphics files is fine, but printing from scans is harder.

I have messed with the settings of both scanner and printer functions on my machine and have that figured out.

 

Bill

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by Graham Green on Thursday, October 24, 2019 7:47 PM

GMorrison

Counting the seconds until Graham G. heaves to and announces that we are all amateurs...

 

 

When you learn a little, ——— you feel like you know a lot.

But, when you learn a lot, ———— you realize you know very little.

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, October 24, 2019 9:02 PM

89,880

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by keavdog on Friday, October 25, 2019 12:51 AM

Curious banter - maybe you two should get a room ;)

I have yet to try anything outside the norm of kit or AM decals so this is interesting.

 

Thanks,

John

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Posted by Redironrob on Saturday, October 26, 2019 9:32 AM
I am in the process of creating my images and I will be placing on to a white surface. It has worked before. Ian becoming more resigned to having to do the the tried and trusted (but messier) old fashioned way!
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