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Consolidated database by wing
Posted by MJY65 on Sunday, February 14, 2021 1:20 PM

I've spent some time searching numerous websites using Duluth, 148th, MN, etc looking for decal options for a future chronological set project, but wondering if there is an easier way than scrolling through hundreds of pages.

 

I'm trying to figure out what different decal combinations are available for the aircraft flown by the 148th FW in Duluth, MN from the 40s to the present.    At this point, I'm trying to narrow down the scale and time period to see if it's even feasible.  Just to see what's out there or what has been produced.

 

Thanks

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, February 15, 2021 10:13 AM

If you aren't aware, a great website is scalemates.com.

Its a member generated data base that's usually pretty accurate and complete.

So if for instance you do a search for F-16E you'll get a lot of kits, aftermarket, decals, books. That in turn will steer you towards which decal printers might be most focused on MNANG, or Bosnian war, or...

If I were to undertake such a project, I would face the fact that making my own decals would be inevitable unless gaps in the chronology were acceptable, or I found someone who had done same before.

But that's not too difficult.

Do you have a list of the aircraft? What if anything is available for subjects pre- F-16?

Since the subjects are fighters; size could be larger than say a wing of KC-135's.

My own choice would be 1/72. A model in 1/48 would be eight times the size of one in the smaller scale and takes more time, money and display space. There are probably more choices available as well.

Good luck, keep posting.

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Posted by MJY65 on Monday, February 15, 2021 10:19 AM

GMorrison

If I were to undertake such a project, I would face the fact that making my own decals would be inevitable unless gaps in the chronology were acceptable, or I found someone who had done same before.

But that's not too difficult.

 

I just recently became aware of the decal printing option, but know nothing of the details.  What kind of equipment investment should I expect?  Is the quality up to par with the commercially produced sets?

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, February 15, 2021 10:39 AM

Last question first- not really, but certainly good quality.

If these are for you to use on your own models, they work fine, So say you want to build a number of F-16s.

Most of the decals needed are easy to find- USAF, national insignia etc. You'd print tail codes, unit badges. 

I use my laptop, and run Illustrator and Photoshop which I get by enrolling in graphic design class at the JCC. But windows comes with enough to do basic art.

I have a ink jet that cost around $ 300 and scan/ print copy in color up to 11 x 17. And that's more than you need.

I'd be interested in whatever links to the 148th you find, research is my main motivator in modeling.

 

Bill

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by goldhammer on Monday, February 15, 2021 1:28 PM

If you haven't already, might be worthwhile to get in touch with the public affairs officer there.  They probably have a complete listing of types assigned, and photos of aircraft and markings used over the years.  Invaluable if you end up having to either make or outsource decals.

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Posted by stikpusher on Monday, February 15, 2021 2:02 PM

The Air Force website for the wing has their history including aircraft flown and thru what years.

 

https://www.148fw.ang.af.mil/About-Us/History/

 

 

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, February 15, 2021 2:49 PM

That's a pretty manageable list. The F-89 would be the hardest to find as there aren't too many kits.  I've built the Hobbycraft/ Academy 1/72 Scorpion and it fought back a little but was nice.

 

Bill

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Posted by MJY65 on Monday, February 15, 2021 4:56 PM

Thanks for the ideas so far.  I've contacted the Public Affairs office, but have not heard back yet.   I'll update if that yields anything that would be of help.

I'd imagine that having some type of real graphics file would make printing decals a whole lot easier and more precise than historical photos that are usually taken at a slight angle resulting in some distortion.

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, February 16, 2021 9:49 AM

I typed in "Minnesota Air National Guard" into the Scalemates search engine, and came up with these results for kits or decals of MN ANG aircraft: aside from the F-89, you're pretty well covered.

 

https://www.scalemates.com/search.php?fkSECTION%5B%5D=All&q=Minnesota+air+national+guard

 

 

 

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, February 16, 2021 10:44 AM

A quick review of the info provided there by Stik suggests that Caracal Decals in Austin TX has taken at least some interest in MN, MN ANG, ANG and F-16 decals.

You might write him and explain your project and find out what you guys can cook up together.

 

Bill

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by MJY65 on Tuesday, February 16, 2021 11:52 AM

stikpusher

I typed in "Minnesota Air National Guard" into the Scalemates search engine, and came up with these results for kits or decals of MN ANG aircraft: aside from the F-89, you're pretty well covered.

Yes.  I've been going back and forth between that site and trying to find them available for purchase.  The fact that they once existed at least gives some possibilities.  I'm trying to learn about the decal printing also so that I could reduce some of the 1/48 to 1/72 when the options are limited.

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