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Printing Decals
Posted by RonaldHH on Thursday, July 7, 2005 1:43 AM
Are there any replacements for the ALPS printers available?

RonaldHH
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Posted by RadMax8 on Saturday, July 23, 2005 11:32 PM
ALPS were dye-sublimation printers. Now, if I am thinking correctly, those new photograph printers put out by kodak, cannon, etc. are also dye sublimation printers, thus having the capacity to print white, and excellent quality. Please anyone correct me if I am wrong... I'm looking for something to print sweet decals on, too!
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Posted by RonaldHH on Sunday, July 24, 2005 12:23 AM
I checked out dye-sublimation printers and Kodak in particular. I did not fine any using white. White in the reason for interest in the ALPS printer. The metallic finishes has some appeal too.
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Posted by RadMax8 on Sunday, July 24, 2005 9:26 AM
I've seen some ALPS printers for sale on Ebay, if push comes to shove you COULD buy one of those. Don't know how comfortable you are with that, though...
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Posted by danpik on Wednesday, August 3, 2005 1:23 PM
Hi all. Lurker and decal printer coming out of the shadows.

Actually, Alps printers are dry transfer printers. some do have dye sub capabilities. The MD1300 is capable right out of the box and the MD 5000 needs a "key" to insert into the back to print Dye sub. This is all useless for decals however as the heat generated by using dyesub mode will destroy decal paper. As a note, there are two types of inks for these printers also. One is for dye sub and the other is for normal dry transfer (not to be confused with dry transfer decals. Two totally different meanings).

The kodak First Check printer is the same printer as the alps. Kodak bought the technology for this type of printer hence the reason alps can not sell any more in the USA. I believe Oki has a liscence to use this technology in the UK (not sure though).
As far as I know here are no other printers available that can print white.

Use caution when buying alps printers on Ebay. When these came off the market there was a rush to snap up all the good ones available. I personally know one decal printer who has a supply of between 20 and 25 of them all in working order. No, he won't sell any of them. Anyway when people saw how much they were selling for up there everybody dug theirs out of the closets and listed them hoping for the big bucks. What a lot of buyers found out was that they were in the closet because they did not work properly. The problems with them vary and some of the minor ones can be fixed. usually a good cleaning of the print head and the rollers is in order. However there are three problems that can't be fixed. The first two are due to poor shipping practices. almost everybody that ships them does not remove the cartridges from them and durring shipment they get knocked out their holders and bounce around possibly destroying the print head or at least knocking it out of allignment. The next problem is that they do not brace the print head from moving durring shipment and this can cause damage to the print head. The big problem, and the one why everybody tries to unload them, is that the print head develops what we call "banding". This is a situation where the elements in the print head stop printing in certain areas thus leaving streaks or bands of no ink in areas in the print. There is no do it yourself repairs for these problems as the print head needs to calibrated via software at the factory. Several people have tried with out any luck to swap the heads out.

Now for the good news. alps does have a replacement program. There is more information on this on their web site. The basics of it though are: you send in a defective printer with a check and they send you a "refurbished" unit. From what I have heard though (unconfirmed) is that the unit you get in return is a new MD5000.

There are two good groups over on Yahoo, Alps and Alpsdecal, that have a large following and a huge database of information regarding these machines.

Dan Pikulski
www.DansResinCasting.com

As a note: the ability to print white is not related in any way to the dye Sub capability. Whire ribbons are available in bot dry and Dye sub cartridges
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Posted by RonaldHH on Saturday, August 6, 2005 6:39 PM
Unless I win the lottery I will have to check into refurbishing a Alps printer. Has anybody done that?

RonaldHH
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 6, 2005 11:22 PM
it can be done, but depending on the problem, and model, it can get a little pricey!
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 17, 2005 3:18 PM
Hello Dan Pikulski

I looked here and on your website for a means to contact you. I have some things around Apls MD5000 I would like to talk about, someone who has obvious experience with. If you dont mind my email is JCWoodbeck@adelphia.net ... could you send me a way to contact you?

Jeff
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Posted by danpik on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 7:32 AM
My email is at the bottom of the text on the main page of my website if you need to contact me.

Thanks, Dan

www.DansResinCasting.com
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  • From: Cornebarrieu (near Blagnac), France
Posted by Torio on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 2:46 PM
There are two discussion groups about ALPS on Yahoo, one of "general" topics, and another more specialised on decals; there are ALPS printers to sell on ebay now and then, beware that some Mac models will go only on Macs and never on PCs; there are two shops in the USA which sell printers when they find them : http://www.systems-consulting.com and http://mpsupplies.com and I think there is also an Australian seller but I don't know his name.

Thank you all for coming José

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Posted by tyamada on Monday, October 31, 2005 7:13 PM
FYI Alps printers use two different types of cartridges Photo(Dye Sub) and Standard Cartridges. The Photo cartridges were for Dye Sub capable printers MD1300. MD2300 and MD 5000. The standard cartridges which include white, gold, silver, metallic magenta, metallic cyan, cyan, black, magenta and yellow.
Dye Sub cartridges include Photo magenta, cyan, black, yellow and overcoat (no white).

The MD1000 only used the standard cartridges and had a resolution of 1200x600. This printer can only be used with Windows 98, ME and NT. Microsoft drivers are provied for Windows 2K and XP, but does not have the capatilities of the Alps driver. The printer is useless for printing decals in Windows 2k and Xp.

The MD1300 has a resolution of 1200x600 and can print Dye Sub.
The MD5000 has a resolution of 2400x1200 and can print Dye Sub with the optional key.

The MD2300 was Alps first attempt at the micro dry process and only does 600x600 and Dye Sub.
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