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Future Coating - Decal Areas Only or Entire Model?

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  • From: St. Louis, Missouri
Future Coating - Decal Areas Only or Entire Model?
Posted by stevedb227 on Wednesday, January 2, 2008 11:23 PM

Greetings!

Having read the tutorial and many postings on the use of Future I still have one question.   I am in the process of finishing the Dragon 1/35 King Tiger w/zimmerit.   The only decals are the ones on the turret and none on the hull.

I was thinking of just using Future on the turret only and after decaling, finish with testors dullcote.

My worry is will the turret have a slightly different sheen to the rest of the tank which only had the dullcote finish?

This will be my first experience using Future and I just want to do it right.   If anyone has any information on which way to proceed I would appreciate the input.

Thanks

Steve B. 

When you are up to your neck in alligators it is difficult to remember the original objective was to drain the swamp!

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  • From: Sydney, Australia
Posted by Phil_H on Thursday, January 3, 2008 7:57 AM

I'd suggest patch-testing.

Sometimes you can get away with just glosscoating the areas where you will be applying the decals. However, some colours darken noticeably when you hit it with a glosscoat and don't come all the way back when you flat coat it afterwards.

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Posted by Gigatron on Thursday, January 3, 2008 2:29 PM

Besides sheen and color differences, Future also protects the paint from possible chemical attacks.

For instance, I was working on my P-61 the other day.  I had given it a coat of future even though it was mostly unassembled, because assembled, some areas are hard to get to.  Anyway, I was gluing a piece on when some glue dripped on to another part.  Normally, the glue would have removed the paint from that area.  Thankfully, all that happened was that the glue fudged up the future a bit, which I was able to repair with a q-tip, windex and more future.  You would never know anything had happened.

-Fred

 

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  • From: Neenah, WI
Posted by HawkeyeHobbies on Friday, January 4, 2008 3:10 PM
 Gigatron wrote:

Besides sheen and color differences, Future also protects the paint from possible chemical attacks.

For instance, I was working on my P-61 the other day.  I had given it a coat of future even though it was mostly unassembled, because assembled, some areas are hard to get to.  Anyway, I was gluing a piece on when some glue dripped on to another part.  Normally, the glue would have removed the paint from that area.  Thankfully, all that happened was that the glue fudged up the future a bit, which I was able to repair with a q-tip, windex and more future.  You would never know anything had happened.

-Fred

 

The thing I learned (the hard way) is to never ever touch the drop of glue spilled on a surface until it has completely cured. Hot liquid solvents tend to only blemish the surface which can be buffed out. Touching any cement usually will mean a more difficult time repairing the area. Glues and solvents mixed with fingers equals trenches! BTDT

 

Gerald "Hawkeye" Voigt

http://hawkeyes-squawkbox.com/

 

 

"Its not the workbench that makes the model, it is the modeler at the workbench."

  • Member since
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  • From: St. Louis, Missouri
Posted by stevedb227 on Thursday, January 10, 2008 11:12 PM
Thanks for all your opinions.   I will try the 'coat the entire model' approach as from what you have said it seems a safer way to go.

When you are up to your neck in alligators it is difficult to remember the original objective was to drain the swamp!

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  • From: Baton Rouge, Snake Central
Posted by PatlaborUnit1 on Wednesday, January 23, 2008 11:50 AM

you will get the hang of Future as you work with it. On cooler days it acts different than on warmer days and dries a bit differently.  Lay down a couple of thin coats at first and let them dry. You might need a third thin coat, but if you apply what "looks good" and put the model down, it will run darned near every time! 

Check out Swannys tutorial, I have found Future to be just incredible for doing effects later in the paint stages.

David

Build to please yourself, and don't worry about what others think! TI 4019 Jolly Roger Squadron, 501st Legion
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  • From: West Virginia, USA
Posted by mfsob on Monday, February 11, 2008 2:27 PM
Every time I've tried to spot coat with Future just where the decals are going to go, I end up with different shades of paint when all the overcoating is done. The only place I can consistently get away with that practice is 1/700 airplanes, which are so darn small to begin with.
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  • From: Cornwall, United Kingdom
Posted by Kit builder on Monday, February 18, 2008 3:36 PM
With aircraft and similar, it's usually best to coat the whole thing. With armour, though, you can get away with doing just the area where the decal will go if you intend to use the typically heavier weathering applications that armour allows and where a slightly different sheen or shade will blend in with the overall finish.
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